Is this clock part bakelite?

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  1. bluemoon

    bluemoon Member

    This clock decoration was glued (with brown glue) onto a clock case that appears to have a written date from the 1880s.
    The clock movement and case are both marked by the same manufacturer but the serial number of the movement suggests it's from the late 1890's or early 1900's. I don't know that for a fact but it's highly likely.
    Depending on the source, it's said the clock company was merged into another one in the late 1890's but elsewhere there are mentions of it being around in at least 1904.

    So how could a clock case from the 1880's have a bakelite decoration, since bakelite was invented in 1907, according to Wikipedia?

    The clock case doesn't seem to have any nail holes from a previous decoration, which is odd because these types of clocks basically always have a front decoration. Aren't those usually attached with nails, not just glue?
    Is the decoration a later addition or is it not bakelite? A hot pin does make a hole in it and it has a certain smell to it, kind of like matchsticks smell.

    It appears the decoration was once glued back together with the same brown glue. It broke again when I was taking pictures of it. Whether it's original to the clock or not is the question.

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  2. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

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  3. bluemoon

    bluemoon Member

    Update: I did some research and apparently, in clock-hobbyist theory the serial number does match the year that is written in the back of the case.
    The decoration is still a mystery though. All the other examples of the same clock design I googled have a wooden circle decoration. Maybe mine had too?
     
  4. bluemoon

    bluemoon Member

    I'm 95% sure it is vulcanite. The rubbery smell, it's faded brownish black, water seems to damage the surface a bit and the material leaves a brown scratch to an unglazed ceramic surface.
    What's the design though?
     
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  5. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    I can't tell how big it is - it may have been a piece of jewelry...

    It's a fairly common floral theme with acanthus leaves, corbel and not sure what flower. The flower would spell out a sentiment or emotion. Maybe anemone?

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    • Protection against evil and ill wishes
    • The approach of a rain storm when the petals close up
    • Forsaken or forgotten love and affection
    • Anticipation and excitement for something in the future
    • Fairies and their magical world of twilight
    • The death of a loved one or the loss of them to someone else
    • Protection against disease and illness
    • The arrival of the first spring winds
    • Bad luck or ill omens
     
  6. bluemoon

    bluemoon Member

    It's probably between 2 and 3 inches long.
     
  7. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    Looks like it was probably a piece of jewelry (to me) if so, it's mourning jewelry, made to be worn in remembrance of a loved one...

    All that to say - too bad it's in such poor condition! :(
     
  8. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    It seems rather daft not to include a picture of the clock or the name of the maker.
     
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