Featured Is this cameo style pendant old or made to look old?

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by Lizzie, Aug 28, 2024.

  1. Lizzie

    Lizzie All you need is love ...and a dog.

    This piece has a brass chain with flower accents, four glass beads and a spring clasp (which I neglected to photo). The pendant is also brass and the "cameo" is possibly celluloid or other plastic (not resin). It's not the prettiest cameo representation for sure. Is it an old piece and where do you think it was made? The pendant is 1 1/2" long and the chain is only 14".

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  2. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Glass or ceramic, painted. Don't get it wet.
     
  3. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    How old would it need to be to be old? Sometime 1950s onward, I would say. There was a lot of faux Victorian in the 60s.
     
  4. Lizzie

    Lizzie All you need is love ...and a dog.

    Thanks @Bronwen. 50's/60's is old enough. Do you think American or European made? The lady is not cold to the touch so I don't think it's glass or ceramic.
     
  5. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Then we're kind of running out of options here. She's not shell. Have seen her before, so, a molded, mass produced piece. Does it seem hollow when tapped with a fingernail?

    Still looks like glass to me, probably Czech, necklace probably assembled elsewhere. If we could see the back, we might find it is concave in the form of a mold. In fact, try tapping the back & see if that sounds hollow. You have the advantage of having it in hand, what do you think it is?
     
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  6. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    I remember a lot of similar "affordable" faux-Victorian costume jewelry in the 1970s. If plastic and brass, that's a possibility.
     
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  7. Lizzie

    Lizzie All you need is love ...and a dog.

    I can only touch her front but it doesn't seem hollow, just warm to the touch. The last picture is of the back, which is a solid brass plate so to speak. I am pretty sure she's some kind of molded plastic and with features not very well defined. The brass chain, frame and accents are what led me to ask if it was old piece. So its from the 1950's-1970's and made to look Victorian.
     
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  8. Joan

    Joan Well-Known Member

    I'm not a cameo expert, but tend to agree with bluumz on the possibility of a 1970s timeframe (maybe even more recent). The scalloped metal bezel around the cameo looks newer to me. I've also seen fairly recent brass or brass-like delicate pendant necklaces that have little glass beads and decorative stamped brass elements on the chain similar to yours. It might help to see a close-up photo of the clasp. Edit: The 14" chain is short for a newer necklace, however.
     
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  9. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    I had one of these exact ladies in hand at one point (from a lot) and I sold it. Definitely plastic was my conclusion. Mine was set on a base metal adustable crackerjack ring. I would say 70s feels right.
     
  10. Lizzie

    Lizzie All you need is love ...and a dog.

    Here is the clasp: clasp resize.jpg
     
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  11. Joan

    Joan Well-Known Member

    Thank you for posting a photo of the clasp. It looks old-ish, but I can't tell if it's brass with silver plating that's worn off, or silver-tone with brass plating. Maybe it's not original to the chain? I suppose it's also possible that someone glued the cameo to an older pendant since the bezel setting isn't riveted to the pendant. Sorry, I'm just raising more questions. Maybe you could run a magnet over the clasp, chain, and pendant to see if they stick to the magnet-- if they don't stick, they're not brass.
     
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  12. Lizzie

    Lizzie All you need is love ...and a dog.

    I will try the magnet. I did wonder if the cameo was a replacement because the rest of the necklace looks so much older.

    I appreciate everyone's input. It helps so much when I am in a muddle.
     
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  13. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    My first reaction is that it's one of those 1990s Victorian Revival pieces not made to fool anyone. A lot were made in California of brass fittings that were never plated with anything at all. It might be older than that, but it's in the same vein.
     
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  14. Joan

    Joan Well-Known Member

    Yes, the 1990s Victorian Revival pieces are what I was thinking of, but couldn't think of what to call them. Here's a 1980's pendant by '1928' that has the same scalloped bezel setting that I've only seen on inexpensive costume jewelry going back to maybe the 1960s.
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  15. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    ???? If they don't stick they're not iron or an alloy containing iron. Brass does not contain iron & will not stick to a magnet.
     
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  16. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Not mine, but always makes me chuckle:

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  17. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    The segments with the clear beads look home made to me. Think this has been rejiggered.
     
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  18. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

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  19. Joan

    Joan Well-Known Member

    Thank you for the correction, Bronwen, my mind wasn't working. I always carry a little magnet in my purse when I want to check for brass.
     
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  20. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Don't you find that you can often smell brass? Sometimes you have to warm it a little by rubbing on fabric or skin. The magnet is a nice indisputable confirmation.
     
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