Is this a vinaigrette and who is this guy?

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  1. drg642

    drg642 Well-Known Member

    Hi, 2 tiny items. First is a little silver thing, a vinaigrette I believe, and still has wadding in the base. I just wonder if there is another name for this style? I've searched and only seen a few other cylinder types, and all I've seen look much more ornate and involved than this one with just the 3 holes in the bottom. And was the top loop (which is messed up) for attaching to a chatelaine?

    Second, a little face jug, 2 inches tall. Is this an identifiable person? Seems like I should know him. I want to say Andrew Jackson - what do you think?

    Thanks!

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  2. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    It could be a viniagrette, it would work as one but I have never seen such a design.
    The man looks like Lincoln.
     
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  3. yourturntoloveit

    yourturntoloveit Well-Known Member

    Andrew Jackson had a rather pronounced "widow's peak" in his hairline.
     
  4. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Jackson is most often shown with wilder hair , and a widows peak...

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    Ohh, Sniped by Yourturn !!!!!
     
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  5. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    I think the first one is a lipstick holder .
     
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  6. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    with holes on the bottom the stick would dry out........NO ???
     
  7. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    At the moment Andrew Jackson is probably the best guess on the man, though komo is right on Jackson usually portrayed with quite a receding hairline with widow peak of his later years. Definitely not Lincoln. Another possible suggestion is Alexander Hamilton???

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  8. drg642

    drg642 Well-Known Member

    Thanks everyone.

    Too small for a lipstick, and I agree, the holes in the bottom would be a problem. I guess probably an economy version vinaigrette.

    I've looked at some more photos of Jackson and Hamilton, and I'm still thinking maybe Jackson. I did see a few of him with just the receding hairline and no widow's peak, and the long thin face fits.
     
  9. bercrystal

    bercrystal Well-Known Member

  10. drg642

    drg642 Well-Known Member

    Thanks Peggy.

    I just searched on ebay, and there is one just like mine being sold as Andrew Jackson, and they are calling it a new item. So there you go.
     
  11. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    I don't think the silver item is a vinaigrette. It doesn't look like the right shape, and at any rate - the lack of proper sealing (the three holes) would dry up the vinegar-perfume solution really fast, wouldn't it?

    I would tentatively suggest that the item is actually an antique stamp-moistener and envelope-sealer. The sponge (or whatever it is) was soaked in water, and inside the tube was a spring.

    You pressed the item onto the underside of the stamp. The spring compressed the sponge, which forced water through the holes onto the stamp, making it adhesive, and it was then stuck onto the envelope. A similar process would've been used to seal the envelope itself (that is, if sealing-wax itself wasn't used).

    Remember that ladies would've sent a lot of correspondence in those days. To husbands, sweethearts, relations, children, etc. And in an age when disease was somewhat more prevalent than it is today - it would probably be seen as unhygienic (to say nothing of unsightly) for a lady to lick her own stamps and envelopes.

    Here's one made by Tiffany & Co, which looks similar to what you have:

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  12. drg642

    drg642 Well-Known Member

    Thanks Shangas, great idea. Mine is smaller, really tiny, 1" tall, 1/4 " wide. Also, it came with that wadding in it, as well as some perfume smelling paper folded up in the top part, so it was used as a vinaigrette at some time, though I can see it might work as a stamp moistener.
     
  13. DanaB

    DanaB Active Member

    Your silver piece was a match stick holder.
     
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