Is This A Cow Horn?

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by cxgirl, Mar 11, 2017.

  1. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    I picked this up, not sure if it is a cow or something else - 14" in length. Has 1800 carved into the side, this looks old but not sure if the date is correct. I've seen powder flasks and cups made of horn, but not sure if this is just a decorative item or not.
    Any information appreciated
    thanks for looking
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  2. Rayo56

    Rayo56 Well-Known Member

    Looks like a Steer horn. Cow horns are generally smaller in size
     
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  3. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    Thank-you Rayo:)
     
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  4. quirkygirl

    quirkygirl likes pretty old things

    I think breed also affects the length of the horns ....
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  5. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    The 1800 is most likely a fantasy. It has no function other than decoration. They did do the aging fairly well though.
     
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  6. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    it looks like it...cow that is...and at the very best...maybe a drinking vessel...but not any powder horn i've ever seen...
     
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  7. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    Thank-yo quirky:) those are certainly big horns! So cows have big horns too?
     
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  8. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    Thanks Terry - so this isn't old?
    Thanks komokwa - Yes, I know it isn't a powder horn, just wasn't sure what it is.
     
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  9. quirkygirl

    quirkygirl likes pretty old things

    Yes, they can. Usually you don't see them because so many get de-horned as calves (which I believe it's mainly due to convenience for the dairy farmers)
     
  10. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    Thanks again quirkygirl, always a learning process:)
     
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  11. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    And danger to them and workers.
    I worked on a small cattle ranch with Charolais.
    Let me tell you... The cows are insane. The only bull there...was a puppy. We could do anything to him. Even in the rack he could give a s**t. Walked in and out on his own.
    I had a fifteen foot gate wide open to move a cow to another pen.
    Instead, she leapt over the 8' pole fence and slammed her udder into it.
    What nutcakes they are. :wacky:
     
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  12. Shangas

    Shangas Underage Antiques Collector and Historian

    To be sure, tip it over and see if milk comes out. Best try this over a sink, just in case :p
     
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  13. Rayo56

    Rayo56 Well-Known Member

    No - Cow horns are just "U" shaped and small. Most are bred out or burned off.
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  14. Rayo56

    Rayo56 Well-Known Member

    Holy crap - if all your life consisted of eating and screwing cows I guess you would be completely docile too!!
     
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  15. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    Thanks Rayo! I'm confused now, this is a cow horn and has been artificially aged?
     
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  16. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    there are different types of bovine horns..
     
  17. quirkygirl

    quirkygirl likes pretty old things

    Hahaha ... it is starting to get confusing, isn't it?

    I think it's due to the term "cows"
    A lot of people refer to all domesticated cattle, regardless of gender, as "cows" ...
    but some folks are more specific ... this is what I've been taught by my husband, a former herdsman (so if these are wrong, I'm putting the blame on him :p):
    bull = un-castrated male, steer = castrated male, cow = female (bred), heifer = female (un-bred)
    Some breeds of 'cattle" are hornless ... Angus for example, (I don't know if they never had them, or if it was bred out over time)
    For other breeds, both males and females produce horns, but they can nipped or burned off when they're very small, if the farmer does not wish to deal with horned livestock.

    I think that you're asking if the horn you have could be from one of the typical cattle breeds (without regard to gender) here in the Americas. My opinion is that it could be ... but I don't know if there are other "bovines" (as komo suggested) that could also have long smooth horns similar to yours.

    The photos I had posted were just to show that some bred female cattle ... "cows" could have very long horns too ;)
     
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  18. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    Can someone tell from the image with the knot in it, just what that knot and 'line' are made of????

    And I think it DOES resemble a Scottish steer horn......

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  19. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    Good question! Looks to be organic such as a strip from a cornstalk or something similar but it surely would be look eaten or rotted no?
     
  20. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    So, would it (the strip and knot) be old or no?????
     
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