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Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by cfh, Aug 20, 2023.

  1. cfh

    cfh Well-Known Member

    702C4E3D-DBD9-4CA1-AA9D-EB0B33CE2FEF.jpeg 3852CA29-C15D-4537-87F6-96C69368D6CB.jpeg 77D165E1-C24E-42AF-B8FF-A8FBFF5A2DB6.jpeg E82D7CC0-B908-40FB-892D-FCB717CBDD49.jpeg I bought this very large, dirty bottle from a estate sale last week. I have been trying to determine it’s age, but can’t quite figure it out. I put it against a white backdrop hoping maybe its color would give clues to its age. The person who sold it to me said it was an antique embalming fluid bottle. But that doesn’t seem right to me. It has mold lines on both sides of the bottle. Any thoughts? As always, thanks!
     
  2. Roaring20s

    Roaring20s Well-Known Member

  3. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    @cfh is it the photo or is the neck kind of wonky? Or maybe my eyes:) 77D165E1-C24E-42AF-B8FF-A8FBFF5A2DB6.jpeg
     
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  4. Roaring20s

    Roaring20s Well-Known Member

    I'd guess the area below the wonky neck was in a form and the neck was too soft when it was being worked, then it cooled.
     
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  5. Drew

    Drew Well-Known Member

    Mid 19th century or older - most likely 1770-1850. Applied lip, pontil scare on base. Nice bottle.
     
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  6. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    It appears to be a large bottle but you don't say exactly. You might want to look through the sha.org site mentioned above as there it a lot of info.

    I think yours might fall in the carboy/demi-john range though size might tell if that's correct.

    Here is a quicker way to get to that info:

    https://sha.org/bottle/miscellaneous.htm#Carboys

    One of the things I understand that throws off dating is the way the larger bottles were made long after other types were machine made. Anyway, here is just a snippet from the info on the site.


    "The first is that these large bottles tended to be made by mouth-blown methods later than when a majority of most other bottle types were being made on machines. For example, the 1920 Illinois Glass Company catalog linked above notes that their new carboy factory in Alton, IL., completed in January 1919, had "...installed in it an Automatic Machine, the capacity of which is devoted exclusively to the manufacture of Carboys, Water Bottles and large Containers, ranging from two to twelve gallons." This implies that prior to that time the production of carboys and "large Containers" was likely still done by hand methods, aka "mouth-blown." In addition, Soetens (2016) noted that the first fully automatic bottle machine in Europe was first used sometime shortly after 1923. That author also mentioned that demijohns were still being produced by hand - i.e., mouth-blown - at least as late as 1950 in Germany. And finally, a recently noted YouTube video indicated to be filmed at Gayner Glass Co. (Salem, NJ) in the 1940s shows workmen still making demijohns by largely hand methods that late into the 20th century."

    That video is available at the following link:
     
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  7. cfh

    cfh Well-Known Member

  8. cfh

    cfh Well-Known Member


    Definitely wonky. I sometimes like wonky things!
     
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  9. cfh

    cfh Well-Known Member


    Thanks, the sight Roaring gave me led me to believe pre 1860’s. But I had no idea it could possibly be that old. Thanks!
     
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  10. cfh

    cfh Well-Known Member


    Yes thanks. I think it is probably a 5 gallon. I was unsure about what to call it other than a bottle. But this explains why I was seeing all sorts of ranges in dates associated with them. Thanks!
     
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