Featured Herend Tray

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Lfiduk, Jun 12, 2017.

  1. Lfiduk

    Lfiduk Member

    I found this beautiful Herend tray at thrift store. I'm not a reseller, but would be interested in knowing what it might be worth. I searched high and low trying to find a like piece to get an idea but came up with nothing. I finally got a response from Herend in Hungary that it was made in May 2003 based on its mark. It's not old, but I think it's beautiful and love it! If anyone has any guesstimates let me know. Thanks!

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  2. bercrystal

    bercrystal Well-Known Member

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  3. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    All I know about Herend is it doesn't come cheap. Congrats on your find!
     
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  4. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    Stunning. Fantastic thrift purchase.

    Thanks to Bercrystal, :) we have the pattern: Rothschild. You could scan Ebay completed under "Herend Rothschild" and get a general sense of what different pieces are selling for.

    This has an interesting shape. How big is it approximately? Almost wondering if there is something that is missing, or a companion piece, though I might be off base. Just a bit unusual to have a Herend plate or tray somewhat asymmetrical, although maybe that is a modern design since from 2003.
     
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  5. bercrystal

    bercrystal Well-Known Member

    I was thinking it was a bonbon tray or something similar, but there was nothing with that description. I tried to keep looking, but there are literally 51 pages of the main Rothschild pattern. :jawdrop::jawdrop::jawdrop::jawdrop: I swear they have probably 20 different sugar bowls. :p:p:p:p:eek::eek::eek::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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  6. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    Bercrystal nailed it with Rothschild. Believe it is "Rothschild Bird." Gee, there are **51** pages of RB! I couldn't find this particular tray on the few pages I looked at. Page 50 has a couple of Rococo dishes with similar gold trim scrolling and "patty pan & lid" with the gold scrolling trim on the handle. The first dish on the following page has identical birds as on your tray. Scrolling down the page you can see the "patty pan" and Rococo dishes.

    http://www.replacements.com/webquote/herrob_s50.htm

    --- Susan
     
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  7. bercrystal

    bercrystal Well-Known Member

    I thought those Rococo dishes were a possibility, but not knowing the dish's dimensions I just wasn't sure. :confused::confused:

    I just have a question though. What in the hell is a Patty Pan & a Rococo? :wacky::wacky::wacky:
     
  8. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member


    No home is complete without a Patty Pan!


    (Actually I have no idea what it is, either.)
     
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  9. Mansons2005

    Mansons2005 Nasty by Nature, Curmudgeon by Choice

    In my past, "playing with patty pans" was a reference to cooking or general messing about in the kitchen...............not a place I associate with Herend..............
     
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  10. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

  11. Mansons2005

    Mansons2005 Nasty by Nature, Curmudgeon by Choice

    re: the cooking reference - I know that Alcott made the reference in "Little Men" and I recently heard it on television, but I can not make the connection to the programme (but it must ave been on PBS, 'cause I seldom watch anything else).
     
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  12. SBSVC

    SBSVC Well-Known Member

    I remember "patty-pan" from a Beatrix Potter story, The Pie and the Patty-Pan.

    There's a copy of it online here:
    https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Pie_and_the_Patty-Pan

    Webster says a patty-pan is (ready for this?) a pan for baking patties!
    (First Known Use: c.1835)

    Other sources say it's for baking pasties as well as patties...

    Further, patty-pan squash is apparently so named because of its resemblance in shape to the patty-pan used for baking patties.

    Okay, then. Patty-pans are apparently for patties. I'm sure that helped a lot!
     
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  13. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    Notice how I put quotes around Patty Pan. I wanted y'all to know I was quoting directly from that page and that I hadn't finally gone over the edge. I have no idea what one is used for. SBSVC's info gathering is as good as it gets for one: "Patty-pans are apparently for patties." :hilarious:

    As to Rococo, they are referring to the style of the dish. Rococo style is also known as "Late Baroque." Baroque to me is "over the top," very ornate with curves, scrolls, shells, asymmetrical designs, whites and golds, mirrors, etc... Those dishes have the curves, scrolls, shell look of Rococo. Here is a Rococo decorated room of the early 18th century:

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    --- Susan

    Edit: The following article is more or less saying Queen's cakes were baked in Patty Pans that could be "Petty pans, patty pans, queen cake tins, little tins, teacups,1 or saucers were used to bake the small cakes. The patty pans were tin, glass, 'table-china,' 'chinaware', 'blue and white,' or 'stone.'"
    http://researchingfoodhistory.blogspot.com/2011/04/queen-cakes-and-patty-pans.html

    and then there are these:
    http://gotheborg.com/glossary/pattypan.shtml

    and also found mention of patty pan squash as SBSVC found. Serving cooked patty pan squash in them would probably be the best use of them.
     
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    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

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  15. Lfiduk

    Lfiduk Member

    It's similar in size to a dresser tray and is in pristine condition. I knew exactly what it was when I saw it and couldn't believe my luck. Below is the mark translation from Herend.

    Name of the product: Tray

    Form number: 7518-0-00

    Pattern: RO (Rothschild Oiseaux – Rothschild Bird)

    Production date: May 2003 (D refers to 2003, E refers to the 5th month)
     
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  16. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

  17. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    Lfiduk, that is one gorgeous plate/dish!!!!!!!!!!;););););););):)
     
  18. Lfiduk

    Lfiduk Member

    Thank you! I have it resting on a side table with a lamp and a monkey in the "speak no evil" position with its hands over its mouth as if to say "Whaaaat? How did you get so lucky!" :woot: My Mom gave me a matching matchstick/toothpick holder to set with it.:joyful:
     
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  19. Lfiduk

    Lfiduk Member

    Like I said, I went through all the usual avenues to identify....Between Replacements.com, eBay and the others you never can really tell what something is truly worth. I've concluded that "worth" is dependent upon what the buyer is willing to spend. Unfortunately for me, I love my stuff and don't want to part with it...lol
     
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  20. Lfiduk

    Lfiduk Member


    There will be one heck of an estate sale when I check out!...lol
     
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