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  1. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    I've had this postcard for a while. I just came across it again and remembered I'd never figured out what it says.

    The stamp is from 1917, eleven years before the Arabic script was replaced by the Latin script for written Turkish. Apparently, Ottoman Turkish is a mix of Arabic and Persian.
    I tried taking a photo of the message and running it through the Arabic translator on Google but the translator came up with nonsense, and also kept changing the translation every few seconds.

    The postcard probably isn't that interesting, but you never know, considering the era in which it was written.

    Can anyone help?

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    Bookahtoo, Mar 8, 2023
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  2. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    FASCINATING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And WHO would know if it was something "TOP SECRET"?

    @Bookahtoo, I didn't check it out, other than to ASK DuckDuckGo.com if they had a language translator and it appears they DO.....just an FYI....
     
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  3. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    Thanks Aqui - I'll go look.
     
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  4. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    Duck Duck Go does not have Ottoman Turkish. Only Arabic - like Google.
     
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  5. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Sivas is a city in central Turkey and the seat of Sivas Province. The city, which lies at an elevation of 1,278 metres in the broad valley of the Kızılırmak river, is a moderately-sized trade centre and industrial city, although the economy has traditionally been based on agriculture.

    That's crazy cool !
     
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  6. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

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  7. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Well-Known Member

    Maybe not...but it is Wildly Beautiful!
    Interesting in an occult way, without threat. Thanks, Books...
     
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  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

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  9. Rec

    Rec Well-Known Member

    i found information about the stamp, it's a 10 para "Evladi-suheda" stamp.

    From 1915, apart from the postage, it was decided to collect taxes to help the children of the dead soldiers!The star to be placed on the "tax stamp" is printed as a six-pointed instead of a five-pointed star as a result of mistake.Here is a special name for this series:“Six-star Son of Suheda stamp!.

    Your's have a five pointed star so it would be a later version.

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  10. Roaring20s

    Roaring20s Well-Known Member

    This may be some of it ...
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  11. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    Thanks Roaring. Maybe if I combined that with some of the Arabic translation I'll get something!

    Thank you for the information about the stamp, rec. I looked at one of the six pointed ones - wow!

    Thanks for your enthusiasm and suggestions everyone! I'm glad you find it as intriguing as I do.
     
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  12. GreekAntiques

    GreekAntiques "Wisdom begins in wonder." Socrates

    Thank you for your vote of confidence, @Any Jewelry. Unfortunately, my education did not include "OsmanlıcaTürkçe" which is what the Turks call the Ottoman script/language.

    @Bookahtoo, I also find it intriguing. I can offer up two references for future translation and further investigation, if you have the time and appetite for a deep dive.

    The first is DEEPL, which is what I use for translation. You will find it at DEEPL.com It only translates from modern Turkish, but that might get you a little bit further down the road.

    You can also consult LEXILOGOS, which has a page dedicated to Ottoman Turkish references. But it will be a research job. See https://www.lexilogos.com/english/ottoman_turkish_dictionary.htm
     
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  13. Bookahtoo

    Bookahtoo Moderator Moderator

    Thank you for the help and the resources @GreekAntiques.
    Maybe I'll do the research this summer when I don't have to be "on call" for for my 15 year old grandchild all day for online school!
     
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