Help With Location On Oil

Discussion in 'Art' started by kardinalisimo, Nov 6, 2014.

  1. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    Researching on the artist and the location. Any suggestions are welcomed.
    Thanks
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  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    • Charles Dickens later moved to 112 College Place, Camden.[22] It was here in College Place (then known as Little College Street) that he boarded with Elizabeth Roylance, a family friend, whom Dickens later immortalised as "Mrs. Pipchin", in Dombey and Son.
    • Camden Town, often shortened to Camden (ambiguously also used for the much larger London Borough of Camden of which it is the central neighbourhood), is an inner city district of London.
    • The name, which appears on the Ordnance Survey map of 1822,[5] was later applied to the London borough of Camden, created in 1965.[6]
    My best guess...!!
     
  3. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    I was guessing war damage in London, which is likely in keeping with what komokwa said.
     
  4. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    The one way signs are nothing like British signs of any period, in fact they look like US signs to me. The Norman arch is not a period ruin feature, since it has a fanlight in it, and the tower in the background has an Italianate campanile look.

    Where do you find US signs, fake ruins and Italianate architecture? California? Or the artist, Granger's head?

    Add California and Granger and you have a rare painting by the film actor Stewart Granger, who died in Santa Monica.

    I suspect this is from his posthumous period.
     
  5. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    From the look of the architecture I would say it is a scene from WWII Valletta, Malta.
    However the road signage would have been in English and Maltese.
     
  6. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    thanks for the replies.
    I am really debating if the view is real or made up. I think we agree that the ruins looks like from war damage but like Afantiques said they appear a bit fake. As far as the road signs being not from the period, I don't know. I have to research what signs from WWII look like. My first impression was that they do look like US ones but I am not familiar with the road signs in the rest of the English speaking countries.
    Malta you say. Will try to explore that possibility.
    I am finding artists by the name of Granger to be with American, British and French origin. Don't know who Steward Granger was but will check him out.
     
  7. Messilane

    Messilane Well-Known Member

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  8. daveydempsey

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  9. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    Just a thought, what about the bell tower, Sather Tower/Campanella, at the University of California, Berkeley after the earthquake of 1989? Definitely not of the SF earthquake of 1906 for the tower wasn't built until 1917. I'd be surprise if it was the Campanella because this one looks like it has a cross on top and the Campanella doesn't. As I said, just a thought.

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  10. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    I was wondering about the signage.
     
  11. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    By the way I forgot to mention that the stretchers are Anco. They look like period to me but I could be wrong.
    Unless the company exported their products or the artwork was restretched or brought rolled from Europe I guess the painting could be with US origin.

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  12. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    Anco that made the stretchers was originally located in Brooklyn, NY, and today in Virginia. It was found in 1904 as the O.F.Anderson Company. In 1934 it was incorporated and name changed to Anco Wood Specialties. It is still in operation today. This woodworking company's products range from custom mouldings to "product line expanded to include silk screen frames, custom screen doors, mirror panels, artist easels, drafting tables and *artist canvas stretcher bars,* growing to be number one in it's class, selling his fine products worldwide."

    http://www.ancowoodspecialties.com/Index.htm

    --- Susan
     
  13. fidbald

    fidbald Well-Known Member

    looks like Detroit.
     
  14. kardinalisimo

    kardinalisimo Well-Known Member

    Detroit? How did you come up with it?
    So far quite different suggestions. I think I should focus on US based places. The signage are most likely American but I don't think they have changed a lot during the years.
    Here are some 40's/50's signs.

    http://www.urbanremainschicago.com/...icago-street-sign-with-directional-arrow.html

    http://www.urbanremainschicago.com/...eel-one-way-city-of-chicago-traffic-sign.html

    http://www.urbanremainschicago.com/...-not-enter-reflective-die-cut-steel-sign.html
     
  15. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    Detroit is widely perceived in Europe to be in ruins. Hence Detroit.
     
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  16. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    It's a painting, did one ever consider that the signs are an attempt at humor ?
     
  17. Messilane

    Messilane Well-Known Member

    The signage is done correctly, so I'm not seeing any humour?
     
  18. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    It's not the signs themselves that are humorous ....it's what they are saying....positioned next to an archway blocked by tons of debris...

    That plus......those signs really look out of place next to a bombed out building front!!
    They are also overly large.....and not damaged at all !

    At least that's what I see.....
     
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  19. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    Spanish architecture, earthquake damage - California. Why not? Is there a street in one of the bigger California towns called College Pl. ? The mission bell tower in the background is a familiar sight in many parts of the state and the brick building with fan lights could be anywhere from San Francisco to San Diego. Since Granger is a fairly common name, I don't think Stewart has anything to do with it.
     
  20. Bev aka thelmasstuff

    Bev aka thelmasstuff Colored pencil artist extraordinaire ;)

    Just realized Ladybranch beat me to it.
     
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