Help with Hallmarks on a few miniatures

Sorry photos are great the marks are so tiny. I have two set with this mark unable to figure out the maker. marks look like Lion, ? E, MSC in a clover stamp. thanks!

 

Nice set.....i like the bold chunky look.

 

I found a Maltby,Stevens & Curtis but not in a clover? Still looking.

Maybe you will have better luck here.

http://www.925-1000.com/silverplate_M.html

 

Maybe the set is English??? Sorry I am no expert.

 

Hi Trip,
Try this hint. Take a burning candle and put it close to the hallmarks so the black soot covers it. Blow out the candle and set side. Take a piece of clear or frosted cellophane tape and cover the hall marks and push down firmly. Lift the tape and place on a white piece of paper (I use note cards) so when it is Id'd I can write on the back.
The marks show up under the tape. I learned this from the conservators at the MET in NYC. Besure to wash the soot off. Then you can scan the card and the hallmarks will really stand out.
greg

 

Just a quick note to say I had no luck IDing the MSC mark either from the pic. I did see the Maltby, Stevens & Curtis mark like Shiloh did, as well as the MSC of Middletown Silver Co. Supposedly the Swedish silversmith Maria Schnierer Calmeyer uses MSC, but I couldn't find a pic of her mark and don't know if in a clover. I also looked for a matching MSG, M & C, etc... marks. I tried all the American and British references I could think of, but of course it could be Scandinavian or wherever also. It certain would help if we knew the following 4 marks/punches. Do try Greg's suggestion.

--- Susan

 

They look like British hallmarks to me. Funnily enough, I had some silver a month or two back with that same maker's mark. Never found out who it was, but I doubt it matters over much.

 

thanks i came up with the same similars, but no exacts, I have 3 sets of miniatures with this mark. I will try the soot thing later today. Here are few more miniatures I cannot figure out (working on a huge lot of miniatures) marks are soo tiny my macro on my camera just isn't getting the job done.

 

ha the most important crest tray mark is the least clear it looks like x or k .

BTW The MSC mark, the date letter is an E in a distinctive script. I looked at all the english citys "E"s and the closet I came was to matching E was Edinburgh 1734. Maybe it is fantasy mark

 

update, found a better loupe. MSC in tri clover, lion facing left, leopard head!, letter E or D in squared off rectangle. Try a better photo is later.... off to an appt. Thanks all

 

Leopard head is London, date probably 1978 or 79 if upper case script, 60 or 61 if lower. That's if you mean the cartouche is squared off at all four corners.

Did you notice the wee tray says KP SIlversmith? Looks like 1991.

 

I desperately crave this !

 

thanks Bear "Did you notice the wee tray says KP SIlversmith? Looks like 1991." Duh, didn't noticed until you pointed it out. Obvious when magnified. The lot is so vast, but so far this knife set is my favorite piece

 

should say flatware set for four

 

Love the flatware chest. Looking at the spider web deco on the front reminds me of E G Webster? Are the utensils marked?

 

I love that little knife box. The motif is classically Regency. Nice collection of bits, that.

 

Hey Bear: I was going through the notes that accompanied the miniature collection I am working on (1000s of items) found the entries for the items marked like the tea set above "silver by C. J. Traill-Hill" Couldn't find any comparables though. Do you recognize the name?

 

Hm. No immediate bells ringing, but I'll fish out some older books, see if there's anytihng. Might be the dealer!

 

C.J. Traill-Hill was a miniaturist, not a silversmith exactly, and produced not only silver but furniture, etc.

 

Where did you find that, mansons? (I love miniatures.)