Featured Help identifying two diamond brooches

Hi - these are two more from my grandmother's things. There are no hallmarks, but her family did originate from Austria, so could be continental. A jeweler has said they are all real diamonds. Any thoughts on what age these might be? I couldn't find anything online that looked like the second picture.

 

Maybe @i need help can move your 2 threads to the jewelry forum.

 

If I were guessing, the pin is 1880s and the pendant is from around 1910. Seeing the backs would help a LOT with figuring out what's from where.

 

Thanks so much for the replies. I’ve put photos of the backs above.

 

Welcome. The hinge and clasp look right for the 1880s, but we'll see what one of the real experts says. The pendant looks to have a mark on the clasp, but don't ask me to read it from here.

 

they are both very lovely !!!!!!!!!!

 

I'd think the brooch is 1880s ish.

 

I looked at the pendant under a magnifying glass and there is no mark. Does anyone have an idea on the style/era of this one? I’m clueless!

 

I'd think it's Edwardian. It's transitioning from fussy Victorian towards simpler styles and the very beginning of Art Deco.

 

I was thinking tag end Edwardian to Intermediate Period. Close enough either way.

 

Mm, sort of 1910 to 15 ish. Might be 20.

 

I sent the images to Tooveys auction house and they responded:
Brooch - Crescent
Probably English, circa 1890-1900. This design was extremely popular during this period. The settings look like they could either be white gold/platinum, with a gold backing.

Brooch – Circular
English or possibly French, circa 1900-1910. The design is very delicate and refined, which suggests this period and again is likely set in white gold/platinum.

 

Tooveys are excellent, they really know old jewellery. I've sold bits through them in the past.

 

Regarding the brooch: the crescent brooch type was common throughout Western and Central-Europe at the time. If it is unmarked, chances are high that it was produced in Germany, maybe the UK, all other countries had a mandatory hallmarking system in place. The diamonds are set in silver, the base of the brooch is yellow or a slightly rose-colored gold.
The brooch was most likely part of a bigger set/small parure, as is has a screw mechanism on its back so that it could be screwed onto a pin and be worn as a hair ornament.

Regarding the pendant:
The base is again in a yellow or slightly rose-colored gold. As it is tarnished, the top should be white gold (alloy equal to or below 14ct). Platinum does not tarnish. White gold would also help to date the pendant, it was only invented in 1912. The lace/honeycomb pattern in the lower part of the pendant was popular in the time 1910-1915. The central diamond looks like an old European cut diamond.

You should take both jewels to a goldsmith and have them polished, they will look so much better.