Haida Native Artist Signature Help

Hi,
Not sure if this should have been put under or art or here - hope this is okay.
Signed print - I have tried JM Live, TmLive, SM Live, changing the v to u and still nothing. have also tried the subject matter and still nothing.
Any ideas appreciated
thanks for looking

 

Imlive? LMlive? Noilive? Milive? Jmlive?
Sorry, that's all I have... good luck!

 

I'm going to go out on a limb and say something's fishy.

1. it looks like a painting that someone's trying to make, look like a print.
or it's poorly printed.....
2. i don't think the pencil siggy is by the same hand as the painted one.
3. there are elements of the design that are both missing, and unknown in NWC formline structure.
4. just because it's black and red and says " Haida" , doesn't mean it's been done by a 1st Nations artist.
5. most prints I've encountered have the numbers on the left .....and are dated, and do not have titles in the print, but those are added with the pencil signature.
6.Could the JM be Jon......the name I do not recognize as native.

IMHO...

 

Wise words komokwa!

I'm pretty sure it is a print rather than a painting - what kind of print I don't know but do agree it is poorly printed. I did notice in the 2nd photo there is something inside the red dot, faint marks of some kind. You have given me lots of information I would never have thought of, thank-you

 

I would add or clarify:
1) it is not a signature I am familiar with, and JM or Jon does not suggest anyone to me.
2) The forms and usages, as mentioned, are not entirely correct in NW Coast terms, pointing to an artist who is not traditionally-trained, may be self-taught, non-native, or the like. That really widens the scope as to who it might be, beyond just a list of trained Haida artists. Many galleries (Stonington in Seattle, and likely Doug Reynolds or Latimer in Vancouver) maintain lists or binders with samples of common signatures, and are willing to talk with people about them, or let you peruse their binders; but if the person is not native, that may not be helpful.