Featured Gorham Crystal & Sterling Silver Ice Bucket - identification help

Hi Everyone,

Hoping someone can help me identify the glass maker & the torch looking mark above "Sterling" (last photo) on this Gorham signed ice bucket. Not sure if that "torch" mark belongs to the glass company or Gorham.

TIA!

 

What a lovely bucket!
Since the mark is on the silver, I would presume it must be relating to that, not the glass.
(And now to state what you probably already know...)
Gorham used symbols to denote year of manufacture from 1885-1933... though, oddly, I don't find your symbol among these:
https://www.925-1000.com/Gorham_Date_Code.html
Hopefully, someone else here can help!

 

That's an 1890s Fuchs & Beiderhase (later Alvin) mark, they were the maker, the 'GORHAM M'F'G CO.' stamp was Gorham's retailer mark.

~Cheryl

https://www.925-1000.com/americansilver_F3.html

 

The crystal body would be ABCG (American Brilliant Cut Glass)...

~Cheryl

 

Ive looked at countless ice buckets over the years and that is the first one Ive ever seen in sterling ! Its gorgeous. Now I'll have to start looking at them again.

 

Thank you so much for the silver maker ID Cheryl! Any way to tell who made the crystal and what that pattern is?

 

Heh, not for me, but maybe someone else. Did you look for an acid-etched maker's mark?

Nice piece...

~Cheryl

 

I've looked but have not found one.

 

Here's an additional photo of the glass from the inside. Hoping that will help someone identify the glass pattern & maker.

 

That’s one helluva ice bucket! I’ve got a doozie of a porcelain one but I like that a lot. Ice buckets tend to sell well in my experience. A luxurious item from the past that actually still gets used. Most items in that category simply get looked at or ignored, ice buckets still see action.

 

Try posting on the American Brilliant Cut Glass Association group’s page on Facebook. Very knowledgeable people there.

 

Thank you for the suggestion - we had our friends post the question on that group page and the consensus seems to be that it’s J. Hoare.