Gold Iberian Ring?

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by Gage Tarnaski, Oct 17, 2018.

  1. Gage Tarnaski

    Gage Tarnaski Member

    really want to know the date of this selling this on my site need to know date and origin such as Spanish or Portuguese
     

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  2. Gage Tarnaski

    Gage Tarnaski Member

    are these good enough
     

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  3. i need help

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    Check Display all images Full Size next time, easier for all to see. Are there any markings on this?
     
  4. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    What makes you say it is Iberian? Can we see the shoulders & the inside, please.
     
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  5. Gage Tarnaski

    Gage Tarnaski Member

    This is a typical iberian piece..do you need more pictures?
     
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  6. Gage Tarnaski

    Gage Tarnaski Member

    I am sorry i am new to this and no markings
     
  7. Gage Tarnaski

    Gage Tarnaski Member

    it wont let me says pictures are too big;/
     
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    i need help Moderator Moderator

    It’s fine, I posted them. Next time try to size photos to 1mb, and check that box. :)
     
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  9. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Welcome, Gage. Yes, the photos are the ones I wanted. You may know more about this type of jewellery than the rest of us do, but give it a little time for our worldwide community to have a look at it.

    Do you have any information on the stones & the metal? Has any testing been done, or history that came with it? The color of the stones looks consistent with rubies.
     
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  10. Gage Tarnaski

    Gage Tarnaski Member

    okay please help and where difd you post them my friend?
     
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  11. i need help

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    Above, I just enlarge and reposted on your thread.
     
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  12. Gage Tarnaski

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    Yes they are rubies one has been replaced, these types of rings are super rare and it is gold 12-15k hard to tell acid tested type in iberian ruby cluster ring and youll see ones just like this but sadly mine is missing stones im guessing 1750s but not sure
     
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  13. Bronwen

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  14. Gage Tarnaski

    Gage Tarnaski Member

    That second picture is my ring. Like I said I can find accurate literature on these, I have a Spanish librarian who knows these well and I can't get ahold of her ugh im so lost....
     
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  15. scoutshouse

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  16. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Surely Iberian, mid-17th to mid- 18th century, is close enough? If the people at medieval-rings.com couldn't get any more specific than southern Europe, not sure any of us can do better. Also not sure most potential buyers care whether it is Spanish or Portuguese or...

    With the price of gold as high as it is, every karat counts

    Where? I'm not seeing. You did mention one replacement & this will have to be included in a description.

    Except it has fewer stones & the stones are garnets.

    I'm sure some of our European members will have useful input.
     
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  17. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    The one I found has condition issues and stone replaced... Is yours also missing a stone? Or just replaced?

    Your ring is better quality, from what I can see.
     
  18. Gage Tarnaski

    Gage Tarnaski Member

    Missing a few small rubies and from what I can tell one Stone replaced, yes I just want to be as accurate as possible because this is a beautiful piece of history. Bronwen Thank you for your help, what do you mean in the description?
     
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  19. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Just stating what you already know: if you will be writing a description, you need to specify any shortcomings, as well as the strong points.
     
  20. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Gage, it is stunning, I love it. And a positive for Iberian 18th century, maybe a bit earlier.

    I am wondering if the split shank could be a later, but still antique, repair. With split shank I mean the way the ends of the band are forked.
    The side decorations could be part of the original shank, the band replaced when the original one was worn and broken.
    @kyratango your insights please?
     
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