Featured Gold English Imari shell bowl identification

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Biju, Aug 27, 2023.

  1. Biju

    Biju Well-Known Member

    Hi Everyone,

    Does anybody know the maker of these English Imari Gold Molded Shell dishes?

    Thank you!
    Biju

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  2. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    Cant help but those are gorgeous !
     
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  3. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    ya..... who cares....they are super nice !!!!!!:happy::happy:


    ( ok...I know u care...:sorry:...but u know what I meant......they stand on their own , no matter who made them !!!!!!!! Sweeeeet !!!!!! )
     
  4. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    Those are super nice. I'm thinking 1830ish. If you're on Facebook, there is a group called The British Porcelain and Pottery discussion group that you could post to. No. 90 is a pattern number, but I don't know which factory. Looks like Derby, possibly.
     
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  5. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    While it doesn't make me think New Hall, I don't know enough about them to say for sure it isn't but I do know they used N or No in hand painted red with their pattern numbers.

    From: British Pottery and Porcelain by Henry Sandon

    "Early pattern numbers were usually written in large red, puce or black figures, often with prefix N or No. It is now realised that many wares that used to be called New Hall are in fact from other Staffordshire factories who were imitators; their names are not yet known and they are called X, Y and Z."


    From An Illustrated Encyclopedia of British Pottery and Porcelain by Geoffrey Godden

    "The early wares often bear pattern numbers, prefixed by "N" or "No" painted in a bold free manner (see Plate 441), never small and neat; in teasets only the larger pieces would be marked, not the cups and saucers. The highest number recorded on the early hard-paste porcelains is 940."

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  6. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

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  7. John Brassey

    John Brassey Well-Known Member

    These are very fine. I’m thinking Spode or Coalport are possibilities.
     
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  8. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

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  9. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    Interesting. It could possibly be RCD. It looks to have the quality. Maybe the mark is something to do with the the person who decorated them. They could possibly have decorated pieces for different manufacturers. Also No would have been written as a prefix to numbers quite often so not necessarily specific to any particular kiln. Difficult to be certain at all really. :cyclops:
     
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  10. Biju

    Biju Well-Known Member

    Thank you All! RCD usually marked even their earlier wares. Considering the high quality and the abundance of gilt, I do lean towards Spode or Coalport. Please continue to share your opinions.
    Thanks again!
     
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  11. John Brassey

    John Brassey Well-Known Member

    I checked my New Hall pattern book and it is definitely not New Hall pattern 90. Found this one that seller attributes to Coalport IMG_2590.png
     
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  12. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    Bingo. Well done.
     
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  13. John Brassey

    John Brassey Well-Known Member

    The sellers may not be right but I think they probably are.
     
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  14. Biju

    Biju Well-Known Member

    Agree! You got it again John! Thanks so much!
     
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