Gloss over a Ludwigsburg mark on a figural group

Nathan Lindop · Sep 23, 2019

This might be interesting. Normally I'd be suspicious but this figure is ovf incredible quality. It doesn't particularly look like a reproduction and the mark looks real too.

But what is this gloss highlight that is over the mark? Do some collectors protect their marks using this? Does it make them clearer. Or is it just a fake?

moreotherstuff · Sep 23, 2019

I think a Ludwigsburg mark would be under glaze. Is that a glazed patch in the center of a bisque patch? I'm not quite certain what I'm seeing.

Nathan Lindop · Sep 23, 2019

Yes actually it does look like that! A glazed mark and the rest look bisque or biscuit looking!

moreotherstuff · Sep 23, 2019

Can you find other Ludwigsburg marks that have the same treatment? It's almost as if the mark is being treated as a seal.

blooey · Sep 23, 2019

The quality looks good, but the subject and modelling looks a bit later than old Ludwigsburg to me, a bit bit more sentimental than I would expect.

I read this on wikipedia just now - maybe something to go on?

Later companies
In 1904, the Württembergische Porzellanmanufaktur Bauer & Pfeiffer, though located in Schorndorf, became the first successor to the palace manufactory under the mark of a crown and the words "Alt-Ludwigsburg". The government of the Kingdom of Württemberg allowed the company's operations, despite the questionable legality of its marks, and by 1913 it had 200 employees. In 1917, the company went public and filed for permission to use the royal manufactory's marks. This was granted in 1918 on the condition that the Württembergische Porzellanmanufaktur would add its initials (WPM) to avoid passing off.[17] However, the company's chief decorator wanted to use the royal manufactory's markings with no alteration, and left the company over the issue. In February 1919, he formed the Porzellan-Manufaktur Alt-Ludwigsburg GmbH in Ludwigsburg itself. Alt-Ludwigsburg was sued by the Württembergische Porzellanmanufaktur in the Ludwigsburg district courts on 13 June 1919. In the final ruling, on 12 December 1919, Alt-Ludwigsburg was forced to adopt new markings and became a court-managed company that, in 1921, was entrusted with producing Notgeld. Alt-Ludwigsburg then ran into financial troubles and was dissolved in 1927, while the WPM was successful for a time before also being dissolved in 1934.[18]

In 1926, Otto Wanner-Brandt desired to recreate the successes of the original porcelain manufactory. He purchased the manufactory's trademark rights for 50 years, but was unable to found the Porzellan-Manufaktur Ludwigsburg GmbH until 1948, in Ludwigsburg. The venture was an immediate success, as Wanner-Brandt's use of the original moulds and glaze compositions allowed patrons to order exact recreations of Ludwigsburg porcelains. The manufactory moved to Ludwigsburg Palace in 1967, and in 1994 was recognized by the Württembergische Hypothekenbank for preserving the tradition of porcelain-making in the city. The establishment of an advisory and quality control board in the next year reaffirmed that commitment for reproductions and new wares.[14] Like other porcelain factories, the manufactory was a subsidizing company whose losses were borne by its shareholders. In 2002, those shareholders subsidized €2 million.[19] However, it ran into financial trouble, and in 2004[14] was taken over by EganaGoldpfeil. When EganaGoldpfeil went bankrupt, the manufactory also filed for bankruptcy in the Ludwigsburg district courts on 29 August 2008.[20]

After months of searching, a buyer for the manufactory was found in Lucas A.G., a Swiss holding firm with Russian investors.[21][22][14] Now called Schlossmanufaktur Ludwigsburg GmbH, the manufacturing of contemporary porcelain at Ludwigsburg Palace resumed and the lease on space in the palace was extended to 31 December 2015.[23] However, the business was not a success, and the last production was in 2010, when an expensive problem with the kiln developed.[14] CEO Maxim Gennel confirmed that the company filed for bankruptcy in March 2014, but was then confident that the company would survive. A lawyer in Stuttgart, Stephan Rüdlin, became the insolvency administrator.[24] The closure of the manufactory was announced in October 2015.[25]
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