Featured Georgian pastel painting?

Discussion in 'Art' started by Wellacipollina, Dec 10, 2023.

  1. Wellacipollina

    Wellacipollina New Member

    Buongiorno a tutti, sono nuovo del forum e sono italiano quindi perdonate il mio inglese. Recentemente ho acquistato un dipinto a pastello. Questa era la descrizione del venditore:

    Mezzo ritratto georgiano a pastello in cornice dorata contemporanea, firma indistinta
    Un bel ritratto in buone condizioni anche se è presente un piccolo foro nel ritratto ma difficilmente visibile (visibile in foto)
    La cornice presenta alcune crepe che sembrano riparate in passato ma sono stabili e non compromettono la qualità dell'oggetto.
    Misure della cornice: 60 cm x 35 cm x 8 cm
    La mia domanda è: pensi che sia originale e quanti anni potrebbe avere? È davvero georgiano di epoca?
    Thanks to everyone
     

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  2. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    Google translate:

    "Good morning everyone, I'm new to the forum and I'm Italian so forgive my English. I recently purchased a pastel painting. This was the seller's description:

    Georgian pastel half portrait in contemporary golden frame, indistinct signature
    A beautiful portrait in good condition although there is a small hole in the portrait but hardly visible (visible in the photo)
    The frame has some cracks which appear to have been repaired in the past but are stable and do not compromise the quality of the object.
    Frame measurements: 60cm x 35cm x 8cm
    My question is: do you think it's original and how old could it be? Is it really Georgian era?"
     
  3. Wellacipollina

    Wellacipollina New Member

    sorry, I set the automatic translator and it translated into Italian
     
  4. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Welcome, Wellacipolina. Is the glass it is under convex? We would like to see the signature, even if difficult to read. The hardware on the back used to hold the string is unusual. It would be good to have a close up photo showing the detail of one of the attachments.
     
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  5. Brian Warshaw

    Brian Warshaw Well-Known Member

    Except in monetary terms, I don't think it matters much whether it was painted in Georgian times, or yesterday. I think it is lovely.
     
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  6. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    A very pretty child, and it does look like a pastel portrait, but putting a date on it may be difficult. There aren't a lot of clues in the image that strike me as being date specific. An assessment of the paper on which the drawing is done may be your best hope of getting a date. (and there might be something written on the back)
     
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  7. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Welcome, Wellacipolina.
    She is delightful and good quality. The wide neckline of her dress, almost a straight line, with bare shoulders, is more mid 19th century in my opinion.

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  8. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    The bare shoulders are an issue.

    This portrait by Greuze was painted c1775, but the bare shoulders aren't due to the cut of the clothing:
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    This portrait of Lady Augusta Wellington is c1837. It shows a dress cut to reveal the shoulders, but, even if trimmed to just head and shoulders, the hair treatment would still be an indicator of date:
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  9. Wellacipollina

    Wellacipollina New Member

    Grazie a tutti per le risposte molto interessanti! Ho appena acquistato il ritratto e non è ancora arrivato. Appena arriva gli farò una foto migliore e vi darò maggiori informazioni
     
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  10. Wellacipollina

    Wellacipollina New Member

    Thank you all for the very interesting answers! I just purchased the portrait and it hasn't arrived yet. As soon as it arrives I'll take a better photo of it and give you more information
     
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  11. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

  12. Wellacipollina

    Wellacipollina New Member

    Ciao, finalmente il quadro è arrivato, purtroppo il vetro si è rotto durante il trasporto e lo sostituirò. Il vetro non era bombato e il dipinto è come una tela montata su una struttura. Devo ancora decifrare la firma ma ci sto provando. Allego le foto.
    grazie a tutti
     
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