General question about 5" Royal Worcester pitcher

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Lucille.b, May 12, 2015.

  1. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    Preparing to list this, had a question. There is a tiny mark, almost looks like a slash of black paint under the handle, see last two photos. The piece is in really nice condition otherwise, and my sense is that this original to the piece, perhaps a slip of the brush when it was being signed/numbered on the base?

    ro1.jpg ro3.jpg ro6.jpg ro6b.jpg

    Keywords to describe something like this? Thanks.
     
    cxgirl and KingofThings like this.
  2. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    I've wondered about similar odd marks on pieces I've had. I'll be curious to see what others say.

    That's a lovely piece!
     
    KingofThings likes this.
  3. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Worcester would NEVER have let that out of the factory if it were a manufacturing mishap. Or at the very least, it would have a second mark. Looks almost like a scuff to me, and I've seen that a fair bit. Is it over the glaze?
     
    KingofThings likes this.
  4. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    Looks like felt tip pen to me from the photo. If it's an over glaze mark I'd be tempted to see if a tiny bit of isopropyl alcohol would remove it but I've never fiddled with anything on this type of glaze so don't know what might happen.
     
    KingofThings likes this.
  5. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    Something land in the glaze in firing and burn off?
     
  6. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    It would still have been rejected. Worcester were very very funssy.
     
    KingofThings likes this.
  7. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    I didn't mean it wouldn't...just suggesting what it may be. :)
     
  8. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Oh quite. ;)
     
    KingofThings likes this.
  9. bercrystal

    bercrystal Well-Known Member

    I'm with SIS. Try a q-tip with a little alcohol or Fantastik, slightly moistened & use a very light touch.
    Peggy
     
    KingofThings likes this.
  10. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    Just back, thanks so much for the responses. :happy:

    Since I have the piece in the hand, a few observations. I don't believe that it is a scuff, totally smooth to the touch. And it seems to be over the glaze. I just took a 60x loupe, possibly some kind of ink or paint the way it has kind of a bleeding look at the edges.

    Helpful to know that Royal Worcester was very strict, so we can assume this happened after production.

    There is so much written on the bottom of this piece aside from the stamp, "EC" (I assume that is the decorator's initials) "3" "1m" then what looks like "28" or "2B" in black. Also on the base, a red smudge of paint, a black smudge.

    If Worcester was so fussy (not doubting that, I've sold figurines, etc. they were always immaculate) could this have been a practice or sample piece?

    awor.jpg
     
    Last edited: May 12, 2015
    KingofThings likes this.
  11. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    Oh, and I'll try the solvents (later today).
     
    KingofThings likes this.
  12. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    Lighter fluid maybe?
     
  13. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    You could try a pencil eraser.
     
    KingofThings likes this.
  14. bercrystal

    bercrystal Well-Known Member

    An eraser sounds like a good idea also. If you have one of the flat rectangular type with the angled ends that might be the least "invasive" so to speak. Whatever you decide to use, remember to use a light touch.
    Peggy
     
    KingofThings likes this.
  15. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    Don't use an ink eraser I would think....
     
  16. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    Total success! I already had the rubbing alcohol out and was giving it a test before I spotted the eraser suggestion. Alcohol was the key, it dissolved on contact. No pressure needed. Literally one swipe.

    It must have been a sharpie or something, perhaps from the estate sale folks marking things hastily. Sorry to clog up the list, I just thought it looked like paint....:oops:

    Happy ending on this one.
    ant1.jpg
     
  17. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Good that it cleaned up so easily. Congrats!
     
    KingofThings likes this.
  18. mymysharona43

    mymysharona43 Well-Known Member

    Too late now but ah I was gonna say hair spray will take ink out of almost anything
     
    KingofThings likes this.
  19. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    Yea! It looks beautiful!
     
    KingofThings likes this.
  20. Pat P

    Pat P Well-Known Member

    Excellent!

    In general, is it safe to use rubbing alcohol on glass and ceramics? Is it okay on EAPG items?
     
Draft saved Draft deleted
Similar Threads: General question
Forum Title Date
Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain Cut glass - general questions Mar 16, 2024
Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain A general price question about Nemadji Pottery Vases TIA Jul 29, 2019
Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain General question re: ceramics Dec 16, 2018
Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain ID help and general question Aug 21, 2016
Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain Rookwood General Electric Light Bulb Ashtray 1949 Jul 14, 2021

Share This Page