Garage sale customer returned some paintings to exchange - and gave me a Dali??!

Discussion in 'Art' started by journeymagazine, Jun 15, 2021.

  1. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Is this a Dali?? A lady who bought 20+ paintings a couple of months ago came by with them stacked in her car telling me she bought a beach house & these didn't fit - could she return them in exchange for new stuff? (!!)
    I finally picked out 5-6 that I liked and let her pick out some stuff for them - I refused to take them all back.
    Then she asked me if I wanted this piece that she'd gotten at another garage/estate sale because it wasn't her style in exchange for a large carved wood buddha I had - I said Yes(!) because I like surreal/abstract and because I think that's a Dali signature?
    Is this a artist proof by Dali? If not does anyone know who the artist is?
    And if so, does anyone know the title?

    It has 2 tape(?) marks at the top that I think is just where it came loose from the matting?
    Any information is greatly appreciated!

    ART PRINT DALI ARTIST PROOF 1AA.JPG ART PRINT DALI ARTIST PROOF 3AA.JPG ART PRINT DALI ARTIST PROOF 4AA.JPG ART PRINT DALI ARTIST PROOF 5AA.JPG ART PRINT DALI ARTIST PROOF 5AAA.JPG ART PRINT DALI ARTIST PROOF 6AA.JPG ART PRINT DALI ARTIST PROOF 6bAA.JPG
     
  2. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    It definitely looks like a Dali signature, but whether it's an original or an open-series print or what...dunno.
     
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  3. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

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  4. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Yes but even if a open end print the fact it's hand signed & a AP makes it special right?
     
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  5. Mark London

    Mark London Well-Known Member

    The signature looks off and I would also be very suspicious of an a/p or e/a since they are less easy to disprove compared to a numbered print. In other words there cannot be more than one print numbered 1/150 but proofs are not generally numbered.
     
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  6. wiscbirddog

    wiscbirddog Well-Known Member

  7. Lithographer

    Lithographer Well-Known Member

    I think it is kind of strange that they pointed out using rag board and then obviously used an acidic tape or adhesive. I am wondering about the red signature too, maybe it was used to distinguish the EA prints from the regular edition. I would put the example from the gallery and the photo of yours side be side on the computer and really scrutinize yours.
     
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  8. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Thank you wiscbirddog for your help!
    Lithographer maybe prev owner changed frames & put it in this one?
     
  9. wiscbirddog

    wiscbirddog Well-Known Member

    The woodblock one is only 12" X 10.25". What is the size of yours?
     
  10. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    It's 12 7/8 x 10 1/8 - but if I measure just under the 2 tape stains it's exactly 12" there?
     
  11. wiscbirddog

    wiscbirddog Well-Known Member

    Sorry Journey, but I'm afraid you have a fake. It clearly states that only a limited edition came with an autograph, and you don't have a numbered limited edition.

    I copied the following from the attached website after I ran a translation from Dutch:

    "The Divine Comedy"
    This collection contains 100 titles.
    This print is titled as Hell Canto 18, The Flatterer or also as The Fraudulent Ones
    Issue: 1963
    Only a limited edition of The Divine Comedy was released with an autograph.

    https://fakedali.blogspot.com/2015/08/
     
  12. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

  13. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    And being a artist proof isn't different? (I don't know so I'm asking)
    I think it's worth getting checked no?
     
  14. journeymagazine

    journeymagazine Well-Known Member

    Not sure what Hell Canto is but they were signed numbered in red - wouldn't a artisst proof be part of a limited edition?

    From your link below

    "The Divine Comedy"

    This collection contains 100 titles.
    This print is titled as Hell Canto 18, The Flatterer or also as The Fraudulent Ones
    Issue: 1963
    Only a limited edition of The Divine Comedy was released with an autograph. The works from Hell Canto were then signed in red pencil. But most editions are not signed.
    Edition:
    French Edition - 5346
    Italian Edition – 3188
     
  15. wiscbirddog

    wiscbirddog Well-Known Member

    Find an expert and be sure.
     
  16. all_fakes

    all_fakes Well-Known Member

    Just from memory, so I could be wrong; but I recall that there is an official Dali verification site, which however charges for their services. And that I've heard Dali is very widely faked/reproduced/reissued; that he at one time signed blank paper for a print-maker who could then print whatever he wanted over the original signature. So there is a very wide range of material in the marketplace, with a variety of degrees of authenticity.
     
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