Featured French paste brooch mystery

Hello everyone,

I saw this old brooch for sale online, and the pictures of its back made me buy it.
I recognized a good mystery and I would love to see this one unravel!
Can you see the striking similarities with the cross I already showed here a while ago?
The way the back is constructed and the drop look exactly the same!
Some paste stones are replaced on the brooch.
I can see the French boars head mark (1838- now), but the rest of the marks is not clear to me.
So, these are my thoughts:
The brooch and cross definitely look to be close family to each other!
The brooch is French.
The boars head is from 1838 or later but the brooch findings make me think its a bit later, maybe 1880-1900.
My cross might be older than the brooch because its back is really nice and worn (but maybe thats just because pendant rub more against clothes?)
So is the cross Georgian like we first thought or also much younger than it seems?
And also: are both of these revival-style?
Have you ever seen similar backs like these on jewelry like this?
I m also having visions of my unknown German maker AG again! (same use of colored paste stones, maybe same time frame)
Any help with my mystery is greatly appreciated!
The cross:
https://www.antiquers.com/threads/austro-hungarian-paste-cross.75092/#post-5245275

and unknow German maker AG: https://www.antiquers.com/threads/help-needed-with-croix-a-la-jeanette.81064/

 

That back is very like Georgian stuff I’ve got or have seen.

I’d be very tempted to try and put back original or near original stones in the brooch, those are way too bright to my eye.

 

OBB thanks for your reply.
I know, it has a Georgian feel, right?
Still, I m not convinced it is what it wants us to believe

 

IMO, same maker for both your pieces
The lozenge shaped maker's mark is partial, can you see initials in it? Usually a letter-a symbol-a letter.
Those regional crosses were made as a continuous tradition, the making till 1900s is the same, only the hallmark can say the date

 

Nice find, Dessert.

Ditto.

I would say so too, those dangles are like carbon copies.
Which also solves the mystery of your "Austro-Hungarian" pendant.

That is often the case with regional jewellery. Some Dutch jewellery is still made the same today as ca 1800.

 

Rest assured, it is not by our mystery maker AG. I think these colours would be a bit too party-esque for AG, and they love their mark too much, they stamp it every place they can.
But it could be the same timeframe. A sort of Revival piece, imo.

Most of them could be original to the piece. But I agree, the party is a little loud. The one just above the dangle is a replacement imo.

 

Kyratango and AJ, thank you very much for your replies.
The lozenge mark: I see a small letter d to the left, in the middle letter A with wings on top?
I ll try to make better pictures later.
Oh well, no Georgian jewerly for now. At least now I have a better understanding about my cross also

 

AJ, I m not so sure its not by AG or its nephew!
I just noticed there are some 'bolletjes' spheres without use on the top back part of my cross and brooch which my Jeanetteke 'Pearly' also has!
I ll try to make pictures...wait for it...

 

As we would say jokingly, by "zunnen bruur".
(If it is not someone you think, it must be his brother.)

 

AJ ja inderdaad. Ik wou het zo nog niet zeggen

 

Zeggen ze bij jullie ook 'zunnen bruur' voor zijn broer? Jullie zijn verder naar het westen, maar we zijn wel allebei in de Zuidelijke Nederlanden.

 

There are some 'spheres' on the back of my cross and brooch which dont really have a use.
My Croix a la Jeanette by German maker AG also has them but less noticeable
Maybe it was just a way of constructing these jewels?

 

Could be. Maybe the French maker trained with the German one, or vice versa? Silversmiths did travel.
Or it was zunnen bruur.

 

AJ ik hoor het mijn Limburgse vrienden zo zeggen.
Zelf ken of spreek ik (spijtig genoeg?) geen enkel dialect...enkel streektaal.
Iets met een moeder en vader die elkaar niet zouden hebben verstaan als ze elk hun eigen dialect hadden gesproken

 

Belgisch Limburg is hier net over de grens, vandaar.

Da's minder. Goed dat ze een compromis hebben gevonden.

 

AJ, I m sure they all had wonderful parties with eachother!
Telling trade secrets and having a good laugh with some German beer and some bottles of French wine

 

I m going to have to stop collecting these regional jewelry pieces though...regular jewelry is easier to date

 

But they're so tempting, aren't they.

True, and also tempting. Ahhh joolz!

 

If you stop, just send it all to Anyjewelry, unless one of us Americans manages to intercept the jewels en route. We don't see them here.

 

Evelyb, ah helas, I cant quit to collect the Flemish regional jewels. So the other regional pieces will have to stay too.
I m sure you can find lots of other bling in your region. And something tells me AJ might already have some treasures of her own