François I, king of France

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  1. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    Those above are not 16th either... 19th! In my collection:smug:
     
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  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    yes....a stamp seal that old...and french, would have been large...and elaborate.
     
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  3. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    This is about all I could do with the photo....maybe not so Roman looking but different than the coin in Abdel's link above from SIXBID I think.

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  4. abdel

    abdel Well-Known Member

    Franco 1 has a beard, lauvre museum said that.
     

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  5. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    This coin looks a little closer to the image shown on the seal though the text is different. But it is a coin. I wonder if that's whats on this seal.


    https://www.coingallery.de/KarlV/France_E.htm

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    Teston de Bretagne n.d. (1515-1540), 4th type, Rennes. Ø ca.29 mm, ca.9 g. Duplessy 833.
    Obv.: +FRANCISCVS:D:G:FRANCOR:REX·BRITN.DVX "... duke of Brittany"
    bust looking to the right, draped and crowned with basque beret.
    Rev.: ⁑+⁑DEVS:IN:ADIVTORVM:MEVM:INTENDE:R "O God, come to my assistance", R = Rennes.
    Crowned arms of France, flanked by crowned ermines (symbol of Bretagne).
    François I was the son-in-law of Anne, Duchess of Brittany (1477-1514), and succeeded to her numerous properties, in particular to Brittany. Anne was the last independent ruler of Brittany. She was also Countess of Nantes, Montfort, and Richmond, and Viscountess of Limoges. She first married Maximilian of Austria by proxy (19 Dec 1490), hoping that this alliance would keep Brittany independent. However, when King Charles VIII of France attacked the duchy, Anne was forced to break with Maximilian and marry Charles instead (6 Dec 1491). When Charles died without issue, Anne married his successor Louis XII. The union of Brittany with the French crown became irreversible, when Anne's daughter Claude married François d'Angoulême, who was to become François I de France.
     
  6. abdel

    abdel Well-Known Member

    As my friend said, the seal was found in morocco.
     
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  7. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    Hmmm this thread is really bouncing around and hard to follow for a late-comer. The seal handle looks 19th C. to me but could be 20th also.

    It doesn’t sound like we’re certain whether the friend’s photo has been reversed or not; until we at least know that for sure, no conclusions are worth much. Many more good photos of the seal surface from various angles would help, plus whether they are original images or photoshopped.
     
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  8. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

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  9. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

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  10. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    This is one of my favorite eBay listings:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/302160027849

    When it first appeared it belonged to a pope a couple before Pio Nono. When I pointed out that the cameo is Pius IX, seller did not acknowledge but the watch changed hands.
     
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  11. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    "The trouble with quotes found on the internet is that they are so often unreliable" - Abraham Lincoln
     
  12. kyratango

    kyratango Bug jewellery addiction!

    Lol! This seller marry old watches with whatever fit in the category of big$$$ collectibles:vomit: , but I doubt he catches a lot of buyers on the highest buy it now:hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:
    The rage of the moment is "memento mori" brand new skulls described as antique:rage: The innocent buyers swallow the bait...:rolleyes:
     
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  13. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    That listing has been up for many months. I used to worry about people being taken in by something like this, then realized that if you are going to spend that kind of money you either A) know what you're doing, or B) have way more money than you need.

    I've been seeing those too. Not to my taste, so have not given them much attention other than to wonder how one seller came to have so many.
     
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  14. abdel

    abdel Well-Known Member

    Thank you to all, I'm still believe it's from 16th century and owned by francois 1 the king of france :happy:
     
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  15. aaroncab

    aaroncab in veritate victoria

    Don't stop believin!

    I'm with everyone else here - unless there's evidence to the contrary - which there doesn't seem to be. Looks probably 19th or 20th century - and I agree with say_it_slowly - perhaps someone attached an older coin to it - or maybe it's a replica coin.
     
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  16. abdel

    abdel Well-Known Member

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  17. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Brass or bronze, the king would have had gold. :happy:
     
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  18. abdel

    abdel Well-Known Member

    He was a poor man :banghead:
     
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  19. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

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  20. aaroncab

    aaroncab in veritate victoria

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