Egyptian papyrus signed, can anyone please tell me about this?

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  1. lisaS

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  2. Bronwen

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  4. Boland

    Boland Well-Known Member

    I have see alot of similar framed decorative and ‘tourist market’ ones around and for sale. Always very pleasant to look at but I would be very hesitant to spend any big money. I have family who also brought very ‘authentic’ looking but still just souvenir papyrus scroll paintings back from their travels.
     
  5. lisaS

    lisaS Active Member

    Hi Bronwen, thanks for your quick response :) I bought this from a charity shop around 3 years ago, it was brought in from a house clearance it’s definitely hand painted I’ve been looking at it in great detail with my magnifier I use to look at my rocks( yes I’m a rock nerd)you can see all the imperfections eg: where the artist has gone a little over the lines with the colours
     
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  7. Boland

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    Funny enough the most recent ones I saw was also at a charity shop. Also looked hand painted to me and might very well have been (but I don’t think that matters much in this case)
     
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  8. lisaS

    lisaS Active Member

    Thank you Boland :)
    Would a souvenir hand painted be so detailed? This person would have taken a long time to create this to sell so cheap,
    Or is that the norm?
     
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  9. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Now, if what you want to know is what's going on in the scene... Thought at first they were catching birds but then saw they are fishing. Most I can say.
     
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  10. lisaS

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  11. Bronwen

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    Have you looked at post 3 & followed the link?
     
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  12. Boland

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    I don’t know what the norm is..But I would still think ‘higher end’ souvenir.’ Have also seen some very nice detailed ones go for very cheap.. The ones my family got while on tour a few years ago were beautiful to look at.. There are other members on the forum that know a lot more than me :)
     
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  13. Roaring20s

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  14. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    We also see them here regularly. Egypt is a popular tourist destination for us Dutch, not too far away.
    Yes, and yes.;)
     
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  15. lisaS

    lisaS Active Member

    Ahhhh!!! That is actually quite shocking like it was unearthed in a box
     
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  16. lisaS

    lisaS Active Member

    Yes, unfortunately haha!!❤️
     
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  17. lisaS

    lisaS Active Member

    Hi all‍♀️
    Well thank you everyone so much for taking the time to help me in my quest to find the holy grail haha!!! Saying that, it is still a beautiful picture and I’m sure someone will appreciate it more than I do❤️ If I do decide to sell it it will be a very modest price to start with on eBay……I promise not to buy a bag of £1.99 sand from the pound shop, dig a hole in my garden and do a photo shoot with the frame poking out of the grassy sand and put a £123,456,789 price tag on it
    Take care❤️
     
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  18. all_fakes

    all_fakes Well-Known Member

    In a lot of places, labor is so cheap that souvenir items are very often hand-made; hand-carved, hand-painted.
    It is one factor that sometimes leads buyers to believe that souvenirs or outright fakes are genuine antiquities. It can be hard to believe that anyone would put that much work into a souvenir or fake - but if labor is cheap, it can be very cost-effective to do so.
     
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  19. lisaS

    lisaS Active Member

    :)Hi all_fakes,
    This is crazy because everything on it has been painstakingly hand painted I’ve looked into it with my magnifier I use to look at my rocks and you can see the mistakes they have made so I did discover it wasn’t a print. Hats off to them though as it must have been many hours of work, just a shame it isn’t measured in time how valuable it would be then. Exploitation at its finest…..ruthless! Well on the plus side I now know what the picture is about it’s Lord Mena Fishing and Hunting Egyptian papyrus. Someone was selling it on MarketMix but because it’s sold I couldn’t see what price they paid.
    Many thanks for your advice :)
     
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  20. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I imagine that when one worker paints the same scene repeatedly, they become faster at it than we think. Or they may do it as a production line, the piece passing from one worker to another, each specializing in a different aspect of the painting.

    I had a tote bag I bought at a crafts show that used one of these paintings as the front panel. Probably bought in the late 1980s. When it wore out I went to the maker to order another one, & she had an assortment of these for me to choose from.
     
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