early Italian painting?

Purchased this painting which was attributed Italian school, 18th century. Does that date seem correct? Back is relined. Need to check all the edges but looks like no bare canvas to show. Reminds me of 18th century portrait engravings, but don't recall seeing many portrait paintings with the wreath. "CAMEA S." if that means anything.

 

I'm on my phone which means I'm close to useless, but if you do a Google search on

sibilla camea

There's a Google book that's a catalogue of art pieces and #147 is a portrait. No pic, but it does have the size, would be a data point if your piece is similar in size.

 

yes. that size is consistent with this picture

 

interesting, one of the paintings from the catologue on Dulwich college site

 

sotheby, relined 1961? looking for records now.

 

If that's the original stretcher, looks 19thc.. not sure about the Sotheby pencil notation --never seen that before ..

 

Sibilla Camea AKA Sybilla Samea brings up a lot more hits but not particularly like this painting, stylistically speaking.

 

The Cumaean Sibyl & the Samian Sibyl are not the same individual, but I do sometimes see paintings turn up under searches with the names mixed. The Persian Sibyl was another popular subject. Domenichino & Guercino did a bunch of them between them.

 

Here's one that clearly says it is the Delphic Sibyl right on it identified as the Cumaean Sibyl, from the Dulwich set:

https://useum.org/artwork/Cumaean-Sibyl-Anonymous

 

For reference:

https://www.dulwichpicturegallery.org.uk/Search?term=sibyl

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:British_-_Cumanan_Sibyl_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg

http://www.nationaltrustcollections.org.uk/results?Subject=Sibyl

 

Indeed. However, if you followed the link to the Google book that @Jivvy quoted and portrait #147, the text noted several sybils and as we are discussing the sybilla Camea not the Cumea, I mentioned that the alternate name for the sibilla Camea, was sibilla Samia.

 

Ah, I see. Have seen Greek use C for an upper case finial S; first time I've seen it used at the start of a word. Odd. OP's is really nicer, to my eye, than most of these others, but does seem like there was a fad for sets of sibyls in the manner of the 'Italian School' & that this one could come from such a set.

Definitely prefer her to this one:

https://www.artuk.org/discover/artworks/the-samian-sibyl-217890

 

Really? I think that one is ultra cool!

after all ..

"The Sibyl, with frenzied mouth uttering things not to be laughed at, unadorned and unperfumed,"

 

I'm sticking with this one.

 

I always thought Michelangelo made the Sibylla Cumaea look monstrous:



I went to the Sistine Chapel to see the Sibylla Delphica, my favourite. She is the only one who actually looks like a woman.
I was there while they were cleaning and restoring the ceiling and they had started on lovely Delphica, the only bright part when I was there. She lit up the chapel.

 

A later catalogue of the same school/organization/charity.

https://archive.org/details/catalogueofpictu00dulw/page/278

Posting mostly because I think it's fun.

 

I'm not sure if we got here already (so many Sibyls!), but this link is to the Dulwich Camea
https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/samian-sibyl/aAFKrp_MUBqHkg

 

Mr Jivvy and I had a conversation just last week about Michelangelo's "women" (Mr Jivvy is not a fan).

 

I'm with mr Jivvy on this. I get it that Michelangelo was not attracted to women, but did he have to paint them like bulky men with little heads? Really!

 

Lol, nearly word-for-word Mr Jivvy's commentary.