Featured Early Carved Box

Discussion in 'Furniture' started by James Conrad, Aug 3, 2018.

  1. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    A "Friesian" carved valuables box is coming to market this month that is probably American, I would guess New York, 1st quarter 18th century that has it's lock missing. Interesting that the back as well as underside of lid is carved.
    " The term Friesian does not mean necessarily that a piece is carved in the Dutch province from which the name comes. These pieces are found from Maine to Pennsylvania, and it is known that some, and believed that all, are native, if long in this country. Similar carving is found on spoon racks and loom stools" (wallace nutting).

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  2. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    What a darling little thing! Those stilt-like feet give it (even greater) charm.

    Debora
     
  3. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Yeah, they are called "bun" feet, common in william & mary furniture and in this case, help date the box. The feet appear to be original, in last pic if you enlarge by clicking it, you can see the dowel on left side of case used to attach the feet.
     
  4. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Dinn't know that (re bun feet) but imagine unusual -- given how fragile both they and dowel are -- that they've survived with box.

    Debora
     
  5. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Absolutely! On period William & Mary furniture those bun feet rarely survive in original condition because they are so delicate & sliding/moving case pieces across the floor tended to damage/break them. This box however most likely sat on a chest of drawers or dressing table and so the feet had a decent chance at survival.
     
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  6. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Sweet piece of carving; it's going to sell for a few bucks.
     
  7. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    How many bucks is the question? You realize my history with early american boxes is not good, tragic in fact!
     
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  8. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    More than I'd pay.(LOL) Beyond that, dunno.
     
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  9. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Yeah, i heard that! Probably more than i would pay as well, estimate is 500-1000 but that could be way low.
     
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  10. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    If there's any justice in the world it might double that. Early 18th century American furniture ought to bring better money.
     
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  11. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Well, some of it does, it kinda depends. Auctions are a crap shoot really but, having said that, there has never been a better time to buy authentic early american in my lifetime, that's for sure.
    There is even a "bird" chest "fragment" in this auction, which is WEIRD!
     
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  12. Christmasjoy

    Christmasjoy Well-Known Member

    LOVE IT !!! ... Joy.
     
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  13. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    I'm thinking that VERY NEAT little 'Friesian' box either could have been brought in by immigrants or made by immigrants once here.....LOVE IT!!!!! t'would be anybody's guess where THAT price will go!!!! When's the auction, @James Conrad ???
     
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  14. patd8643

    patd8643 Well-Known Member

    James, that should have been saved for Americana Week in NYC.
    Patd
     
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  15. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Sale is Aug 26. I am interested but is not going to get overly interested the way i did years ago on another early box called ruth! Just thinking about losing ruth's box still stings all these years later!

    Ruth's Box

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  16. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    AHH, yes, I recall, but didn't that go CRAZY HIGH!!!!???
     
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  17. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    $8000. just a little over actually. Not sure that was crazy high but yes, it was expensive.
    Pilgrim century stuff (1620-1720) can get pricey in a hurry! but, these depression prices on antique furniture in general has helped collectors like myself. I can afford to buy pieces now that only a few years ago i could only dream about!:)
     
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  18. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    Lovely box -- So, are you going to bid on it or did your previous experience burn too much?
     
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  19. James Conrad

    James Conrad Well-Known Member

    Well, I am registered but not going after it all out. It's a nice box but not in same class that the ruth box was in my view. With the ruth box there was no doubt it is american, not so with most early boxes. This box is "probably" american but that is a ways away from "no doubt".
    LOL, when i first posted on this box a couple days ago, there was 1 watching, me, now there are 7 watching and, still 3 weeks till sale!
     
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  20. Christmasjoy

    Christmasjoy Well-Known Member

    I clearly remember the RUTH box James and how much you wanted it !! I sincerely hope that you win this one for a good price .. Good Luck !! .. Joy.
     
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