Daguerreotype of John Campbell (Possible Captain)

Hello,

Purchased this photograph today, was sorta taking a long shot on it.

I was hoping maybe someone could help me find a bit more info on this fellow.

The individual who sold it to me, said that it came from the Hyde Estate in Connecticut.

Any help would be appreciated!

-Scantic

 

Scantic - you really are from CT.(LOL) If that's a dag, this guy could have been in the War of 1812. It might be worth checking CT muster rolls, if they still exist, or with the CT state library. If nothing else, they'd know where to look. When you said John Campbell, I immediately thought "He wasn't born yet" - but that was John W Campbell. (and if you don't know who he was, see 30s pulp science fiction editors, famous)

 

Another shot in the dark?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Campbell

Some pictures to compare...


https://www.google.com/search?q=joh...wwZr#tbm=isch&q=+daggeurotype++john+campbell+

 

The John B. Campbell in Wikipedia died in 1814, so he could not be the one in this photo. But I'm glad that somebody chimed in because I had not noticed this!

 

Good Point Fig! Didn't see that!

There is a lot of people with this name lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Campbell

Oh my....

 

Well, there are a bunch of John Campbells who served in the War of 1812. I found one who had the rank of Captain, but I think there are probably others,.The one I found is mentioned in these letters, and appears to have been from Ohio:

https://books.google.com/books?id=jeHkAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA122&lpg=PA122&dq="captain"+"john+campbell"+1812&source=bl&ots=-P6suHLGXw&sig=nouSyRV18Po3lZ8fBSdkPyzfhXY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CB0Q6AEwAGoVChMIgtHrsYTIyAIVQo0NCh0sRgAx#v=onepage&q="captain" "john campbell" 1812&f=false

 

I found more Captain John Campbells - in the War of 1812 Service Record Index on Ancestry.

The one you found (Captain of Campbell's Company of Ohio Volunteers), another Captain of 1st Regiment (Edward's) of Ohio Militia and one Captain of Corning's Detachment of the Vermont Militia. Vermont might make sense for a Connecticut connection, but given how people might have moved around in the intervening decades, it could be any of them.

Unfortunately, now that Ancestry is pushing separate membership in Fold3, the "index" is all I found.

 

Another part of the research project would be to figure out if any of the Captain John Campbells were later promoted. Any that were could be eliminated, I think. Because a much later note written by a descendant would probably refer to the highest rank the person had attained.

 

That's true, although there are 948 other John Campbell listings you'd have to go through.

 

Holy Moses! *hides under the coffee table*

 

>said that it came from the Hyde Estate in Connecticut.<

Scantic, I'm interested in knowing what Hyde Estate in CT was it? Do you know? There was a Hyde Estate in Pawcatuck, near Mystic, that I believe is on or near the CT and RI line.
http://patch.com/connecticut/stonington/bp--the-hyde-estate-wealth-in-stillmanville

I did find the mention of a HYDE and CAMPBELLl connection on the following HYDE Genealogy page, but too early for your Captain. The page has a little genealogy on a William HYDE who was in Rev. Thomas HOOKER's company, part of the Great Migration (Puritan Migration) of the 1630s from England to the Boston area. In 1636 HOOKER and his company with this William HYDE migrated from the Boston area to what is now Hartford, CT. They were the founders, first white settlers, of Hartford, CT, in 1636. Many of my ancestors were in the same party. This William HYDE eventually ends up in Norwich, CT, with many of my maternal ancestors. Anyways, the 2nd wife of Wm. HYDE/Hide was Joanna (maiden name unknown) ABELL, widow or Robert ABELL. Joanna and Robert ABELL were my 8th great-grandparents.

One of the comments at the bottom of that page speaks of other HYDEs - specifically a Welcome HYDE whose mother was Mary "Polly" CAMPBELL. Not your CAMPBELL for way toooooo early for a DAG. The comment is about the 10th down posted by Sheila Osmer on November 11, 2014.
http://www.hydegenealogy.org/blog/?page_id=619

I know, I've gone out on a tangent again, but wondered if you knew what, who, and/or where of the "Hyde Estate in CT."

--- Susan

 

I'm not 100% certain, but I believe out of the East Windsor area (the auction that sold it) I believe. The lady had purchased a bunch at an auction and said it came from the Hyde Estate near the shore in Connecticut. But that's all she knew.

 

Well, Pawcatuck sure would qualify as "near the shore."

 

It would! haha Could certainly be a possibility!

 

I'm going to go back this weekend most likely. I'll speak with her again!

Hopefully get some more info!

 

Please, don't go out of your way, but if you do bump into her again and get further info, I'd appreciate it!

As very capable others (Baker, Fig and others) were working the Capt. J. CAMPBELL angle, I thought I'd tried approaching the query though a HYDE CAMPBELL connection. This search resulted with pages containing "Hyde, Campbell, Connecticut." From there I stumbled on genealogy of interest to me, which was the HYDE genealogy page that contained the search elements/keywords "Hyde, Campbell, Connecticut." If anyone is wondering why I have capitalized the surnames HYDE and CAMPBELL, in genealogical research, papers, forums, etc..., the format is that surnames are, should be, capitalized for it draws interest to those names and makes it easier to spot names of interest.

--- Susan

 

Hello Everyone!

I have an update!

The Photograph came from the "Hatch Family Estate" out of Stafford Springs, CT.

Found This Info:

Roger Andrews Hatch, 88, of Stafford Springs, CT, beloved husband for 63 years of Lucy (Campbell) Hatch, passed away on Friday, (November 20, 2009) at the Evergreen Health Care Center, Stafford Springs, CT. He was born in Stafford on May 2, 1921,

Looks like it was possibly from the wife Lucy's side of the family.

More research to come!

 

That's great info!

 

So guess what? Lucy Campbell Hatch's 2X great grandfather was (apparently) a John Campbell of Waitsfield, Washington County, Vermont. In the 1820 Census he was between 26 and 44 years old (unfortunately the census system back then only named the head of household and then gave statistical info on the numbers of persons in the home in various age and gender categories.) IF he is the same John Campbell HOH in the home in the 1810 Census, he would have been in the upper half of that age group, because the oldest male in 1810 was also in the 26-44 group.

So the question is whether this John Campbell was the same one listed as Captain of Corning's Detachment, Vermont Militia in the War of 1812 records.

 

I just realized (because I had forgotten in the meantime) that the note in the case says "great great grandfather." Matches darned well, with her family tree, don't you think?

I wonder why this was sold? The family really ought to have kept it.