Could these be genuine Picasso signatures?

Hi all, I'd like to preface this by apologising for my ignorance as I really know nothing about these prints I picked up recently!

I bought these 2 small prints at auction and have no idea what they are! The one appears to have 'avec Pablo Picasso' written on the bottom in pencil and they are both signed, numbered and dated.

The paper they are on is like a transfer paper, one is almost transparent and they appear to have some sort of watermark or stamp but I can't make it out.

The signatures appear to me to be hand-written in ink and not printed.

So, I'm confused, are they 'after' Picassos, if so where is the artists signature? Could Picasso have had some involvement and signed them or are they some sort of forgery?

Any opinions or ideas would be gratefully received!

Thanks,
Lizzie

 

Piciso ?

I'm not seeing Picasso.
Not even in his sloppy signatures.
https://ilsunmoon.com/active-research-blog/2017/4/researching-about-the-signatures-and-monograms

 

Thank you for your reply. Wishful thinking on my part probably!

 

That certainly looks like a Picasso signature and you can find similar examples with a Google Image search. Keep in mind that his signature evolved over the course of his career and he was widely faked.

Debora

 

Thank you! Google image search is a great idea. Yes I've seen lots of very different signatures when researching online so makes it tricky to tell!

Do you have any ideas what sort of print it is?

 

The one on the left looks like a scene of The Adoration of the Magi, but I can't find that Picasso ever did one, unless it's known by some other title.

Edit: There's no Picasso Nativity either.

 

Thank you, I had similar thoughts but can't find anything!

 

It's a gestalt thing, but neither of these looks Picasso-esque to me.

 

And I doubt he would misspell his own name....

 

Here's a couple genuine Picasso signatures from (roughly) the same period for comparison.

Debora

 

Those don't really look likes the ones on the prints, thank you!