Cloisonne, champleve, enameled, Japanese Chinese French... OMG! HELP!

Lots of pics! some numbered to help with identity. I have these four items, #3 is what I typically call cloisonne. But are the others also? Pops says #4 is champleve. Any insight is helpful thank you!

 

All Chinese I think. #2 is pretty recent. The big one might be Japanese.

 

but are they all cloisonne? or some are and some aren't? I find it very confusing.

 

My two bobs worth -
1-Cloisonne - not Chinese/Japanese - maybe European
2-Cloisonne - Chinese/Japanese
3-Champleve - Chinese/Japanese
4-Looks like its painted to imitate champleve - might just be the photo.
Might be wrong about No.3 as they sometimes polish it down a lot and
cloisonne can look like champleve.
Cheers
Stephen

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champlevé

I was thinking #1 & 2 are Champleve and #3 & 4 are Cloisonne.

Click on some of these
https://www.google.com/search?q=cha...5YMKHYdZBPwQ_AUICigB&biw=1372&bih=687#imgrc=_

Wait for other opinions.

 

you can see how I can be confused heh?

 

Nope - have to disagree.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloisonne
1 and 2 have what looks like fine wire construction.

Actually 1 looks like "Majollica" cloisonne which is why I think it is European.

3 is leaning more to fine cast Champleve than Cloisonne.

4 is Champleve

If you google champleve vs cloisonne you will end up with all the eboo pictures from thousands of vendors who, because they haven't a clue, describe their goods as "Cloisonne/Champleve".

Edit: must pay more attention to the pictures - 1 and 3 have the same shape and bottom colouration so delete reference to "European" and they are probably both Cloisonne.

Cheers
Stephen