Cloisonné vase

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by Kristjana, Jul 18, 2015.

  1. Kristjana

    Kristjana New Member

    Hi. My family has a cloisonné vase we would love to know more about. My grandfather bought it in an antique shop (not sure where) probably in the 40's or early 50's. It was covered in soot and my father remembers the excitement uncovering the pattern under all the black.

    Can anyone here tell me anything about it?

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    The mark on the bottom.

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    Any information would be awesome! :)
     
  2. Kristjana

    Kristjana New Member

    Man, seeing it in the high res... should have dusted! Oh well :p
     
  3. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    Dimensions are always appreciated.
     
  4. Kristjana

    Kristjana New Member

    Of course, totally spaced on that! I will measure it tomorrow (it's late where I am).
     
  5. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    It's wild.
    I'd call it an urn , but can't find a similar design.
    I'd say Chinese but those eyes keep sending me towards Tibet or Nepal..???
     
  6. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    I suspect Cantonese.
     
  7. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    FYI-copied from a Chinese cloisonné-maker's site:

    Making Cloisonné

    The first step is body making. The material used for making the body is copper, because copper is easily hammered and stretched. This Step requires a sound judgement in shaping and uniformity of Thickness and weight. It is in fact the work of the copper smith. The only difference is that when an article is well shaped, the Copper smith's work is finished, whereas the cloisonne craftsman's Work is just on the the start.

    The second step is filigree soldering. This step requires great care And high creativeness. The artisan adheres copper strips onto the Body. These strips are of 1/16 inch in diameter and of lengths as The artisan desires. The strips or filigree thus adhered make up a Complicated but complete pattern. The artisan has a blueprint in Mind and he can make full use of his experience, imagination and Aesthetic view in setting the copper strips on the body. The third step is to apply the colour which is known as enamel Filling. The colour or enamel is like the glaze on ceramics. It is Called falang. Its basic elements are boric acid, saltpetre and Alkaline. Due to the difference in the minerals added, the colour Differs accordingly. Usually one with much iron will turn grey, with Uranium, yellow, with chromium, green, with zinc, white, with Bronze, blue, with gold or iodine, red. In time of filling, all the Colours, ground beforehand into minute powder and contained in Plates, are placed in front of the workers and are then applied to The little compartments separated by filigree. The fourth step is enamel firing. This is done by putting the Article, with its enamel fillings, to the crucible. After a short
    Moment, the copper body will turn red. But after firing, the enamel In the little compartment will sink down a bit. That will require a Refilling. This process will go on repeatedly until the little Compartments are finally filled.
    The fifth step is polishing. The first Polish is with energy. Its Aim is to make the filigree and the filled compartments even. The Whole piece is again put to fire. Polish once more with a whet Stone. Finally, use a piece of hard carbon to Polish again so as to Obtain some lustre on the surface of the article.
    The sixth step is gilding. This is done by placing the article in Fluid of gold or silver. Add electric current. The exposed parts of The filigree and the metal fringes of the article will be smoothly And evenly gilded. After that, the metal part of the article will Not get rusty. Then the article will again undergo another Electroplating and a slight Polish.
     
  8. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Looks decent late 19th C Chinese to me. Maybe a bit earlier.
     
  9. Kristjana

    Kristjana New Member

    Thank you, this is very interesting. Amazing how much work goes into making these!
     
  10. Kristjana

    Kristjana New Member

    I never thought of Tibet or Nepal!
     
  11. Kristjana

    Kristjana New Member

    The dimensions are ca. 60 cm in height, 33 cm at its widest without the handles and 45 cm with the handles.
     
  12. anundverkaufen

    anundverkaufen Bird Feeder

    Taotie mask.
     
  13. Kristjana

    Kristjana New Member

    Does anyone know anything about the markings on the bottom?
     
  14. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

  15. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    Yuppers....that kinda would help lots !!!

    There's a couple of folks here who may.......
     
  16. Kristjana

    Kristjana New Member

  17. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    I'm getting closer .....but they made a bazillion of these......& not everything is on the web...........YET !
     
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  18. Kristjana

    Kristjana New Member

    It will be one day!
     
  19. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

  20. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

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