Christian Kröner (1838-1911)- print

Hi all,trying to use the logo/label to pinpoint the possible time period of this print. I have had this for a number of years. It’s 24cmx18cm. Kröner died in 1911. The logo alone looks 1900- 1920 to me (this is just my wild guess) Not sure about the frame. Any help would be appreciated.Thank you and keep well

 

Went to Google Germany and found...

"Fahnauer & Schwab G.m.b.H was a Dresden picture frame manufacturer located at Schreibergasse 7. The company had existed since 1880 and can be documented up to at least 1936. Numerous works of art, especially by Dresden painters, were framed here. Other fields of activity were passepartouts, cartons, gilt-edged cards, glass pictures as well as decorated mirrors and furniture. Art exhibitions were also held here from the 1920s and the company operated as an art dealer."

In 1913, they were using this logo. I would think the logo on your work is earlier.

Debora

 

Are you sure yours is a print? Is it behind glass?

Debora

 

Many thanks Debora. I couldn’t find anything in English on the frame manufacture.. So probably printed while he was still alive.

 

I would think. He seems to have been a quite popular artist but I couldn't find an original for your work.

Debora

 

Not behind glass. I wasn’t sure at first and debated with myself. But I do think a print (Iam not very knowledgeable) It has some surface texture. This looks to be done on board and it’s not dated. From what I read Kröner used oil on canvas and also dated his works but will read and reach some more

 

I have also been looking at his deer paintings trying to find the original.

 

Thanks for searching..

 

It doesn’t look like a print , if it’s an oil even on board it’s worth a few bob, the signature looks ok , he went under three different names : Christian Kroner , Christian Kroener and Johan Christian Kroner .

 

I does appear to have texture (although some prints do.) It also appears to be very dirty.

Debora

 

The only thing that doesn’t seem right is the hanger on the back , which makes me wonder if it’s a copy ( possibly Chinese? ) I hope not for you Boland

 

Hanger looks period to my eye. Seen similar.

Debora

 

Thanks. Appreciate the comment

 

seems to be known by Getty .

Springtime, a herd of fallow deer in the woods
Springtime, a herd of fallow deer in the woods, painting by Christian Kroener (1838-1911), woodcut by Richard Bong (1853-1935) from Moderne Kunst (Modern Art), illustrated magazine published by Richard Bong, 1891-1892, Year VI, No 4, Berlin. (Photo by DeAgostini/Getty Images)

 

You've done it again, Fid! Thank you for identifying.

Debora

 

Well done and many thanks for finding this Fid. Great detective work..

 

So to be clear we are thinking it’s a woodcut print by Richard Bong that was probably done (looking at the frame manufacturer’s label) while Kröner was still alive?

 

Yours is not a wood cut. But we now know the work's title. Not definitive dating but... Fahnauer & Schwab doesn't appear to have been a GmbH when you print was framed (as it was on the later sticker) which could mean it predates 1892 when the law was adopted.

Debora

 

Thank you for the explanation Debora. I was clearly getting confused..

 

could have been a woodcut originally to make the b/w printing easier. sometimes those "Illu" magazines were really cheaply made in those days. many had loose supplement sheets and only the front page was colorprint.
so it could be that little Hannelore got a new set of gouaches and Karlheinz, her father, already saw that his child will become a renowned artist one day and he wanting to read in all peace...
they changed the housenumber from 7 to 4, which could have been a good opportunity to change the legal form of the company.
the Schreibergasse doesn't exist anymore since 1945 - no houses, no street...