Featured Chinese wall plate

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Chinoiserie, Jul 3, 2024.

  1. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    Grabbed this today. Chinese hand painted plate. At first I thought it was mid century but on closer inspection may possibly be older. It all looks hand painted including the red pattern around the rim. Also the red oxide mark on the back looked to be painted/drawn by hand. I have never seen one done like that before. It's usually just a stamp or a transfer. The plate is also really thick and heavy. It weighs 1300 grams. Diameter is 27cm. Sadly some damage on the face. It looks like tape or a sticker has been pealed off, which has removed some of the glaze.

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  2. Jose Deleon

    Jose Deleon Active Member

    Nice one is not that antique but not to new to me in 10sec viewing. 1970s & up.. you'll be surprised I seen a plate in that generation 1950s-80s go for 2,000$ different stamp mark, If I remember school of Jingdezhen mark it had
     
  3. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    I saw that one on invaluable. I couldn't fathom where the value was in it. Generally they go for a lot less though.
     
  4. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    Gotheborg agrees with 1970s or later.
     
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  5. John Brassey

    John Brassey Well-Known Member

    I’m pretty sure it’s printed.
     
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  6. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Ditto. It could have a few hand painted details.
     
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  7. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    You might think different if you saw it close up. I'll try and get better photos. It's not smooth like your average transfer.
     
  8. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    Thank you
     
  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Chinese transfer prints are generally not smooth.
     
  10. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    The mark has different concentrations of colour. You can see where the paint ink has pooled in some places and is thinner in others.

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  11. John Brassey

    John Brassey Well-Known Member

    Perhaps a mixture of both. The leaves look printed some of the birds look hand painted.
     
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  12. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    I agree with that John. We were specifically discussing the mark on the reverse.
     
  13. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    Oh I was. You weren't. :bag:
     
  14. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    :confused:
    I wasn't either. Since you showed photos of the front as well, I thought we were discussing the entire plate, in which case the decorating technique is important.:confused:
     
  15. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    Part transfer, part paint. Nice decoration, sometime in the 20th c and middle range quality. That's what my initial impressions would be if I picked up this plate in a store. :D
     
  16. Jose Deleon

    Jose Deleon Active Member

    Alot goes for less, the very good proc with handwritten mark goes for more. Trust me I seen few past 500$. Few of them are rare.
     
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