Chinese vase w/ a wax seal on the bottom is this old and/or authentic?

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by sunday silence, Mar 6, 2020.

  1. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    the seal means the item is not of historic value to the Country and can be exported for sale.....
    Still a nice item though............
     
  3. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

    is there a way to ID the manufacturer from the seal? or does one simply have to study the patterns?
     
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  4. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    the seal is a Gov't stamp......
    I have one on a mask and one on a brush holder.....

    To help identify the item....show us a full shot...and the base !!
     
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  5. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

  6. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

    I pposted a couple more pics any idea on the quality of this piece?
     
  7. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    it looks nice to me......but we need to see the base....
    &......there are better folks here who will know more than I........they'll be around...:happy::happy::happy:
     
  8. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    I have several pieces that have the wax stamp. They are true antiques being over two hundred years old. The people applying the stamps just thought because it is old it was not valuable. I wonder how many really old pieces were stamped for export?
    greg
     
  9. Jeff Drum

    Jeff Drum Well-Known Member

    Not really, unfortunately (I have a piece with one also, so you're not alone). According to Gotheborg these are called jianding export seals. When they are used, it means "No guarantee of any particular age. When asking around in China, no pieces older than 100 years gets this seal" ... "In practice it is most likely made in the mid 1920's up to the 1950's when the production of 'antique looking Chinese porcelain' made with traditional methods were particularly intense".

    They used different seals depending on where and when it was marked, and if I'm looking at it correctly, the OP's was marked in Beijing. https://www.gotheborg.com/marks/jian_ding.shtml
     
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  10. venedix

    venedix New Member

    I have also two sculpture with red seal mark and thay are realy old to me
     
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