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Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by Makanudo, Jan 14, 2016.

  1. Makanudo

    Makanudo There is no such thing as simple.Simple is hard.

    I would apreciate your thoughts on this mini bowl (4.3/4 x 1.5 inch). I know its not old, but thought it was made well and with lots of manual effort and would appreciate your comments that would help me in my future selection criteria processes.
    Thank you! SAM_1142.JPG SAM_1139.JPG SAM_1132.JPG SAM_1130.JPG
     
  2. Mat

    Mat Well-Known Member

    Hi, as you said it is not old, it is a Chinese attempt to imitate Japanese Satsuma earthenware.
    Mat
     
  3. Makanudo

    Makanudo There is no such thing as simple.Simple is hard.

    Thanks Mat!
    I'll go look up Satsuma now and try to learn something.
     
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  4. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    Looks like an honorary Jianqing Nian Zhi, Da Qing (1796-1820), used 1960s-1970s. The pic is upside down.

    "Mark referring to the Qing dynasty Jiaqing period 1796-1820 but is later. During the 1960s to 70s this was a common mark on porelain made in China but decorated in Macao or Hong Kong."

    Scroll about a 1/3 of the way down the following page to the section "Jiaqing Nian Zhi, Da Qing." Look specifically at # 760, 251, & 293.
    http://gotheborg.com/marks/20thcenturychina.shtml

    --- Susan

    Turn right side up:
    SAM_1139-cs.jpg
     
  5. Makanudo

    Makanudo There is no such thing as simple.Simple is hard.

    Susan,
    Thanks for joining in on this one. I read about satsuma and it didnt really add up. Satsuma pieces are very light and have thin edges and in my view different decorations. I think my mother may have some of these, will check.
    Anyway I browsed and looked at the page from your link.
    I found No. 373 mark to be the most similar to mine.
    I really thank you for this link, it opens new doors tyo new oceans of exploration for me.
    Milan
     
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  6. Makanudo

    Makanudo There is no such thing as simple.Simple is hard.

    Would this possibly be the real Satsuma?:
    SAM_1143.JPG SAM_1147.JPG SAM_1148.JPG SAM_1151.JPG
     

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  7. dgbjwc

    dgbjwc Well-Known Member

    What you have pictured above is usually known as geisha ware porcelain. The image in the bottom of the cup is referred to as lithopane.
    Don
     
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  8. Makanudo

    Makanudo There is no such thing as simple.Simple is hard.

    Thanks Don!
    Could you provide me with a link to the right resources on this? Please.
     
  9. dgbjwc

    dgbjwc Well-Known Member

    Hello Makanudo - either google or ebay would be a good source for further information. There is also a book "Geisha Girl Porcelain" by Elyce Litts. These items were primarily produced for export. Geisha girl porcelain itself is not difficult to find. It is more difficult to find with lithopane. Lithopane can also be found in other types of Japanese porcelain - mostly on tea cups and sake cups.
    Don
     
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  10. Makanudo

    Makanudo There is no such thing as simple.Simple is hard.

  11. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

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    cxgirl Well-Known Member

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  13. Makanudo

    Makanudo There is no such thing as simple.Simple is hard.

    My mother has small and large cups and saucers. She bought them in regular shop here in Belgrade late 60's
     
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