Featured Can You Tell Me Anything at All about This Piece?

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by morgen94, Sep 18, 2024 at 2:07 PM.

  1. morgen94

    morgen94 Well-Known Member

    I would like to give this away, but would like to be able to tell whomever wants it anything about it. For instance, it suggests to me an organizational or club affiliation, but I don't see any marks on it anywhere.

    About how old do you think it is? Of what material are the components made? How was the stickpin part used?

    Thank you!
    Lynne


    StarPinFront1.jpg

    StarPinBack1.jpg
     
  2. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    That looks like a hat pin and brooch. (If there is such a thing.)

    Debora
     
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  3. BirdsEye1578

    BirdsEye1578 New Member

    That is a 1950s women's hair brooch. You are right though it is part of an organization and I'd advise you not to display it in the wrong areas.
     
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  4. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    It would be helpful if you shared what organization you're thinking of, for those of us not in the know.

    It looks similar, though different, to THIS Masonic Eastern Star, with the enamel gone. Might be a place to start looking?
     
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2024 at 2:47 PM
  5. BirdsEye1578

    BirdsEye1578 New Member

    It is a pin that would be worn by the wife of a Grand Dragon. It's colloquially called "The Dragon's Flower" and signals that your husband is a senior Klan member.

    You asked.
     
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  6. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    Of course I asked, I'm sure that's something many of us here wouldn't know. I'm not finding any examples online for comparison.
     
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  7. BirdsEye1578

    BirdsEye1578 New Member

    For the same reason it's hard to find authentic SS officer memorabilia online, not everyone wants to know they own a symbol from a hate group.
     
  8. morgen94

    morgen94 Well-Known Member

    Oh, MY! I hasten to explain I believe I bought it in a jewelry lot at an estate sale...and I am NOT any Dragon's Flower. So, now what do I do with it? Is there a reputable place/museum/historical society to which I can donate it? if not, it goes into the trash...quickly

    Thank you for enlightening me.
     
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2024 at 3:21 PM
  9. BirdsEye1578

    BirdsEye1578 New Member

    What??? don't throw it away, are you mad? That's worth a lot of money to some people, especially older generations remembering "the good old days". You could try going to a gun show and selling it on the side for maybe $800 to $1k to the right buyer.
     
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  10. Kronos

    Kronos Well-Known Member

    Huh... Anyway, get some more opinions before you do anything drastic. There's a lot of floral design pins from the Order of the Eastern Star, as mentioned above.
     
  11. morgen94

    morgen94 Well-Known Member

    I would never want it to fall into the 'wrong' hands, so if I can't find a legitimate historical society or museum that might want it for their collection, I will gladly throw it away. The money matters way less to me than the possible implication(s) of this thing.
     
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  12. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    That looks like a regular brooch with safety stick pin to me? Not a hair ornament. Stars (and comets) were extremely popular around the period this was made...which wasn't 1950s. Much earlier.

    ADL doesn't have this symbol in it's database, and I can't find it in a short search anywhere else in relation to the klan. I'd be very interested to see it recorded somewhere officially.
     
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2024 at 3:54 PM
  13. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    It's easy to find inauthentic SS material exactly because the symbols are well known enough that there's a market, and fraudsters can make money.
     
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  14. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    That’s not a fifties back.
     
  15. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    that pin looks older....

    don't throw it away....... give it away.... here !

    we are all the right hands !!;):playful:
     
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  16. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    The pin hinge says it's 1890s or earlier, and the safety stick agrees. I don't think it has a darned thing to do with the nasties; it was somebody's birthday present for Mommy.
     
  17. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

  18. morgen94

    morgen94 Well-Known Member

    I would very much prefer that outcome. Confirming that, though, seems daunting without any markings from which to start.
     
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  19. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    and confirming it's the grand dragons wife jewelry...on the word ...... so far.....of one new member........ with no evidence to back up that claim...

    how's that working for ya ?????? :confused::confused::confused::rolleyes:
     
  20. stracci

    stracci Well-Known Member

    Well....this turned into an interesting thread!
    I agree with everyone above, the pin back looks late Victorian.
     
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