Can Anyone Tell Me About this Kerosene Lamp?

I buy Kerosene Lamps at estate and yard sales and got this one at an old barn recently. I can't find anything on line that looks like it so was wondering if anyone here can tell me about it (I have more pictures if you need them). It looks like it has a Cast Iron Base (it is heavy enough to be). It has a VENUS BURNER with the Wick turner embossed "VENUS. PAT DEC 10.1867". Any information about this lamp would be appreciated. Thanks.

 

The pictures aren't in the right angle for IDing this lamp. It certainly would help if you could post a picture of the lamp straighten on at eye level and not looking down or looking up at it. I need to see that font straight on. My first impression is that the pattern is "Frosted with "Clear Bar." Then again those bars may be a zipper pattern. A straight on pic of an oil lamp should have the burner removed so that the collar can be seen. Usually the collar is a good determination of timeframe for an oil lamp. Connectors and collars are less likely to have been replaced while burners were more likely replaced. I am including a pic of my "Frosted with Clear Bar" font. Note it has the same wide brass shoulder collar. Sorry, it hasn't been cleaned up.

The base is a stepped hexagon iron base. Iron bases date usually from 1865-1880s. Per Thuro's Oil Lamps, The Kerosene Era in North America, p. 170, today "iron-base lamps are not as popular as opaque glass-base or marble-base lamps .... [because] they are frequently rusty and in need of cleaning. The original finish on these bases was black, or a metallic gold, copper or bronze finish."

Thuro's OL, in the "Iron Stem-Base" section, p. 172, has pictured 3 "Frosted with Clear Bar" font lamps with iron stem-bases. None of the bases is exactly like yours. Each of the "Frosted with Clear Bar" fonts are a different shape. One is sort of an onion shape, another pumpkin shape and the other shaped like your font with the wide brass shoulder collar.

--- Susan

 

Here are a couple of examples of the wide brass shoulder/plate collar like on your lamp. Note that one of them has a patent date of 1867 and 1878.

Scroll about 1/2 way down the page:
http://www.thelampworks.com/lw_info_collars.htm

Here are a couple of "Frosted with Clear Bar" lamps, but with different iron bases and stems. The shape of the font may be different but have the same wide brass shoulder/plate:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Grape-Harve...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Scroll down to #9 and click the link to see the pic:
http://www.horstauction.com/antique15feb.html
or straight to the pic:
http://www.horstauction.com/15febcat/images/009_1.JPG

--- Susan

 

Thanks for your info so far. I have taken a quick look at your links and will spend more time with them once I'm home from work. I do have more pictures so will attach three of them here. Thanks again!

 

Welllll, that glass pattern isn't "Frosted with Clear Bar." The Clear Bar doesn't have that design in the bar. I'm not sure if that design are diamonds, Hobbnails, or just plain squares. I don't have an idea one for this pattern. I looked around on such EAPG sites as:

http://www.patternglass.com

The Early American Pattern Glass Society
http://www.eapgs.org/

I doubt that collar was original with that wide brass shoulder/plate. That collar has "deep annular grooves to strengthen the thinner sides and is either a Taplin-Brown collar or a Taplin-Brown style collar. Many Taplin-Brown collars have patent dates on them. The dates are "April 13, 1875 and March 21, 1876. Do look the collar over. The patent dates on their collar is usually in the middle row between the 2 grooves. Without knowing the exact pattern name, I believe you are safe in dating this lamp to the timeframe of 1865-1880s because of the iron base and the collar.

Here is a pic of the Taplan-Brown collar. Scroll about 1/2 way down the page to the section "Bristol Brass & Clock."
http://www.thelampworks.com/lw_companies_bristol.htm

Hopefully a "glassie" will come along with help on the glass pattern!!!

--- Susan