Brass gilt? covered bowl, signed middle eastern?

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  1. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    I imagine this type of bowl has a name or a purpose but I'm not having luck finding another like it. It doesn't look too old to me, maybe India? It is a bright shade of gold rather than being too brassy.

    It's signed on the rim in a language I don't know, is about 7" in diameter and has three legs with birds.
    main.jpg open.jpg
    leg.jpg sig.jpg
     
  2. all_fakes

    all_fakes Well-Known Member

    Looks to me like somewhat better quality than most India-made items; and the signature looks like it might be Arabic, which would argue against Indian origin.
    I'm sure others will have some ideas....
     
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  3. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    My first guess would be Persian.
     
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  4. all_fakes

    all_fakes Well-Known Member

    The inscription might be the Arabic word for Iran/Persia, though I don't read Arabic very well:
    ایران or ایران
    ‎‎
     
  5. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    looks like a caviar bowl, from saudi arabia......but that's a wag !
     
  6. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

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  7. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    That's a Persian name on the one you found. It's not conclusive, but the odds are good they come from the same place.
     
  8. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    An bespoke artisanal butter bowl?
     
  9. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

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  10. Mill Cove Treasures

    Mill Cove Treasures Well-Known Member

    I have seen similar bowls called Tombak bowls. Look at Ottoman tombak, Egyptian Tombak.
     
  11. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    ok then !
    maybe not that wild !!!!
     
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  12. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Not at all, it was your comment that made the penny drop for me. With the Iranian name and caviar....
     
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  13. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

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  14. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Small point. The inscription will be in Farsi rather than Arabic.
     
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  15. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    I really wish I could read a language not written in our alphabet but then I struggle just to learn a language written in letters I know:(.
     
  16. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    I can pick out a few words, a very few, in Hebrew but that's about it. Otherwise anything I can parse is in the Latin alphabet.
     
  17. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Fair point, of course it is Farsi. Farsi script is mainly Arabic though, with a few additional letters. Although there were several old Persian scripts, Arabic script was introduced after the Muslim conquest of Persia.
    The word Farsi itself is Arabic, the Persian word is Parsi.

    Learning several languages can be confusing. During the last language course I took, my brain simply went on strike. I think I struggle to speak any language properly now, even my native Dutch. Surprisingly, people still understand me. Maybe they just humour me.
     
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