Featured Bottle basketry tribal ID

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  1. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    This is a large (13") basket-ed bottle that amazingly still has its cap.

    The cap is plastic, so that'll help date it. I think the cap is original since the tax seal is on both it and the bottle, and they align when the lid is tightened.

    There seems to be a paper label under the weaving.

    Is this Tlingit? 1960's?

    Thanks as always!

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  2. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Well-Known Member

    Looks like it once contained Fire Water...Nice!

    BTW, I sure like your bamboo counter...
     
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  3. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    not Tlingit or Nootka or Makah........

    it may be Klamath.....and your date may be circa correct..
     
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  4. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    Yeah-- what a troubled legacy that phrase has...


    Yeah, it does look like other Klamath baskets. For my own info, you're basing your possible attribution on the style of weaving, right?
     
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  5. Taupou

    Taupou Well-Known Member

    The material it is made of looks more like a type of rush used in Asian baskets, than in an Indian basket, and the colored bands don't look quite "right," in that they almost appear painted on. Plus the start on the bottom of the basket doesn't look like any Indian basket start that I've seen.

    And, although the Klamath used a local rush-type material in their basketry, the stitching doesn't resemble that used by the Klamath. Nor were they ever known for using red in their baskets. So in my best judgement, I would say it isn't Native American Indian.
     
  6. Potteryplease

    Potteryplease Well-Known Member

    Here's one more picture of the weaving. It looks to me like there were bands of a more yellow color, now nearly totally faded, a darker line and then the larger red bands. Those other colors could just be variation in the plant material too.

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  7. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    actually , more on the material.....and the twist cap being a much more recent work than I'm used to..
    taupou makes valid points I was trying to overlook..!:sorry:

    the weaver looks like they had a palsy......:inpain:
     
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  8. wlwhittier

    wlwhittier Well-Known Member

    It happens, as one ages. Some of it is called 'intentional tremor', an' there are other 'maturity onset' shakes an' shivers.
    It's a whole helluva lot better than I could manage, fer shure!
     
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