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Biscuit jar identification

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by jeasta, Mar 30, 2018.

  1. jeasta

    jeasta Well-Known Member

    Hello, I just bought this biscuit jar and am unsure how to go about determining it's history and age based on the maker's mark. I know it's English ironstone, but I don't know how to learn more. How do you guys find out information about items like this?

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  2. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi Jeasta,
    I think your biscuit jar is an American sugar bowl. If English would not the H.P. Co be H.P. Ltd?
    greg
     
  3. jeasta

    jeasta Well-Known Member

    Hmmmm maybe so. I thought it was English, but I could be wrong. I'm trying to learn more about this stuff, but I am just starting out.
     
  4. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Many English companies use Co or & Co. They also use Ltd. or & Co. Ltd.

    That's one of two possibles: Gibsons or Hanley Porcelain. How tall is it?
     
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  5. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi OBB,
    Thanks for the clarification on Co.
    greg
     
  6. Sandra

    Sandra Well-Known Member

    According to Kovels' New Dictionary of Marks:-
    "HARKER POTTERY CO.
    East Liverpool, OH, U.S.A.
    White granite & semiporcelain
    1890-ca. 1900 (1890-1972)"

    I copied just as I saw it in book, but don't understand the (1890-1972)...maybe they revived the mark in 1972?
    Sorry I don't have the ability to photo page to present here, but it is the same mark with bow and arrow, arrow intersecting words "Stone" & "China" and "H.P." and Co
     
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  7. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Lehner's says this mark (for Harker Pottery of East Liverpool, OH.) is a very early mark (pre-1900).
     
  8. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    It just means they closed in 1972. It's definitely Harker. Lehner's says this is a very early mark used before 1900.
     
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  9. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    Great minds. Must heat up my coffee.
     
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  10. jeasta

    jeasta Well-Known Member

    Wow thanks everyone! I will get myself copies of Lehners and Kovels books. Now how do I determine what it was used for? Unfortunately, I can't measure it's height right now, but I can post that later on.
     
  11. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    Late 19th Cent and early 20th Century used huge sugar bowls. It is much too small for biscuit bowls. here it would be cracker bowls and again too small.
    greg
     
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  12. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    I have read about sugar not being refined until the 1880s or so and how it was sold in solid cones, but no one has explained what people did to it to get it into a sugar bowl. Just whack it with a hammer? I've seen sugar nips to cut off bits, but how would it all work with a sugar bowl?
     
  13. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi Janet,
    My great gram used to put it through a meat grinder. She had several some for meat some for sugar and some for nuts. It was that time when Domino sugar started making sugar cubes. I have a wonderful sterling little server that held seven sugar cubes.
    greg
     
  14. janetpjohn

    janetpjohn Well-Known Member

    I can picture that a lot easier than a hammer, with those expensive bits flying everywhere.
     
  15. jeasta

    jeasta Well-Known Member

    Am I correct in assuming that the "Stone China" on the mark means ironstone?
     
  16. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    The big old lump sugar bowls had chunks of loaf which had been bashed by a hammer, then used tongs or nips.

    I don't think Stone China neccessarily implies ironstone.
     
  17. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    just cuz i'm in a mood..................

    Hello, I just bought this biscuit jar and am unsure how to go about determining it's history and age based on the maker's mark
    .& that's why u joined up here...to get the help u need & learn stuff !!

    I know it's English ironstone
    ,Well, now u've learned it's not English...or ironstone..!!

    but I don't know how to learn more.
    That's what we're here for...to help u find your way thru the tunnel...to get to the light !!

    How do you guys find out information about items like this?
    Book...books...& more books.....or..we ask our peeps here ....cuz they have lots 'o' Books !!
    Also...ya gotta live long enough to gain experience !

    I'll just add...nice clear pics.....thank you !!
     
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