Are these two woven items Apache?

Discussion in 'Tribal Art' started by wildrose, Nov 12, 2020.

  1. wildrose

    wildrose Well-Known Member

    My pops thinks these could be Apache. The flat one is 6" diameter, the basket is 4 1/2" diameter. The color is much more faded than the photo shows. Thanks for taking a look! basket.jpg basket1.jpg basket2a.jpg basket2b.jpg basket2c.jpg
     
    wildrose, Nov 12, 2020
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  2. Roaring20s

    Roaring20s Well-Known Member

    Take a look for some information.


    James.
     
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  3. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    Both look like Pima, or early Tohono-O'odham (Papago). As noted in the video, the most important distinguishing feature between these and baskets woven by the Apache is in the structure of the foundation of the coil. Pimas and Tohono-O'odham used bundles of grasses, split cattails or yucca. Apache basketmakers used stacks of 3 to 5 fine willow rods. From what I can see between the stitches on your baskets, they appear to have bundled fibers as the foundation. The designs are also typical of Pima work.
     
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  4. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    both Pima......mid century......maybe a tad earlier......
     
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    wildrose Well-Known Member

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  6. blooey

    blooey Well-Known Member

    Don't Apache baskets have a gap in the pattern at the rim to allow the spirit of the basket to escape - or is that just antique dealer BS?
     
    blooey, Nov 12, 2020
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  7. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    do u mean like this?

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