Are these Pottery Shards?

Hoping that someone can help me determine what kind of pottery shards these are (if they are indeed shards from Pottery), who might have made them, and perhaps how old they may be.

It seems to be earthenware, glazed on both sides. It also seems to be extremely light weight (actual weight of both shards, 56.8 grams).

Side 1


Side 2


Sides - for reference to Glazing (both sides are glazed - one thinner than other).



Pottery Base

 

It's a bit hard to tell much from the photos. Do you have information such as where they were found and what else is in that area? What country? Size? If glazed it isn't obvious in the photos. Might it be paint?

I ask because one thought might be old wall plaster if fairly lightweight.

Here is a website to try to see if anything looks like yours as you examine it.

https://apps.jefpat.maryland.gov/diagnostic/index-Ceramics.html

 

Origin: Fort Bend County, TX.

Here are a few more pics for reference:





Did not see anything on that link that resembled the shards above.

But found this that seemed to have some of the same characteristics.

Picture below via PDF downloaded from this site:
https://digschool.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Pottery-Identification-Guide-DigSchool.pdf

 

Looks to me as pieces of Tile.
No pottery to me. Flat.
With this structure modern ages (=latest centuries).

For sure no ancient/medieval pottery. The one you show as medieval is no compare with yours.
I would recognize those immidiatly
(Some quick examples)

 

Hmmm....hard to tell when not in hand.

I was fortunate enough to volunteer for a few weeks a year (for a few years) at an archaeological site in Bell County, Texas. There, I know, the limestone and weathering can look a bit pottery like and the photo you show with the coin looks a bit stone like in the center. Could also be pottery that burned or something else, just can't tell.

Maybe someone will recognize it.

What I'd suggest is contacting one of the archaeologist in that area and see if they'll look at it for you. It looks like there are some archaeology groups and museums associated in that county.

 

I found a shard (sherd?) on a beach once that I thought was pottery but turned out to be marble.

 

Found two grape shot cannon balls on the property as well. Those have not been dated but it I assumed likely from Santa Anna's troups camping here just before crossing the Brazos River into the town of Richmond. Assuming a likely small spill.

Thank you!

Thank you! I'll see who I can find in Fort Bend County. Appreciate the help. The weight does seem light to me - was thinking seemed like a chalk / sand mix ?? It's definitely earthen materials.

 

It's flat. Flat ancient pottery? Never seen uit.
And another sign. Where are the turning tracks?
And for sure not medieval.
Sorry.

Flat. Simple pottery baked cheap. Common tile is my opinion. A few centuries old then (1400-1850? Hard to tell. Depending on situ).
Stone as say_it_slowly said can also be an option.

That's a bummer. Keep looking i would say!
I've found shards on beaches (in europe) which were roman, and medieval. And in gardens from friends. On vacation. On farm fields. While shopping in an old town. And... I allways hunt, everywhere i have time and oppertunity for it.

My background. Found me (myself and i) about 1000 between 3000bc and 1500ad (all official registered and determinated by me with the specialized archeologists = highly learnfull). And at least another 500 between 1500 and 1950 (not archeologic interesting, just nice enough). Left much more, as not interesting at all.
I even found several new sites archeologics didn't know off yet.
I'm that trained in this i standing cherry pick a roman or medieval one from the ground between 30 and more modern ones i don't pick up.
And found Stone age tools. And a higly rare neanderthaler tool. And fossils up to 350 mln yo. One from 50 mln yo on a local beach.
I always hunt for 'old stuff', all my life

 

Is that relevant?
Didn't count. Over years several sessions from several hours. And i don't know their office hours.

 

Most took a minuten, or two(?). More difficult ones 5 minutes, or some more(? digging in books). And among that also where (less) non-pottery objects to register. Was with specialized expert who knew a lot only by seing and just had to confirm to be sure.
Roughly guessed somewhere between 30 to 60 hours together? Including teaching/explanation with it. And then the office hours (not for me) for the actual registration in the official archives, and writing the reports (i also got).
They were pre-selected by me so a good head start. At most 5% fail margin, some cases 0%. So only had to determinate what pot and (more) exact dating by style, model and backing (-manner, composition and more).

 

@Bookahtoo For your interest an indicational overview:
https://i.postimg.cc/j5txhvCY/pixlr-20230105152342673-20230105153043519.jpg

My neanderthaler tool is my oldest men made object (250.000 - 35.000bc). If i'm right the oldest possible men made object?

 

Well, where I live, (Canadian west coast) it would be highly unusual to find pottery shards older than a couple of hundred years. More likely to find native artifacts which you are supposed to photo and leave "in situ" and not take for yourself. I didn't know that when I picked up a stone on a beach that I thought was unusual. It had a beveled edge. Turns out (an archeologist saw my photos of it and told me what it was) it is half of a stone adze, and although it is black, it is referred to as a jadeite adze, and made used by the local natives about 500 years ago or so. It probably broke and the owner threw it in the ocean and it traveled by time and tide to where I picked it up! Also, there is some not so old history attached to the marble shard I picked up on a beach on a different island. A number of Hawaiians emigrated to this area back in the mid-19th c and set up homesteads. On this particular small island, you can visit the old house and there is some historical information there. They had a small orchard and probably sold/traded their fruit. The marble shard is probably from a wash basin. So, history wherever you are!

 

Ohw, that's nice! As i already said, always keep your eyes open. You never know what you'll find.

For everyones information. All my archeological finds are legal. How would i otherwise got them registered officially.
Don't know how it's there, but here loose finds are legal as long as you register them with the authorities. That's also needed to legally gain ownership.
But you have a very good point. Never search on protected archeological sites!! Never interfeer an official situ (=archeological situation). That's forbidden worldwide!

Now get back to the topic shards?

 

Where I am, two hundred years is young.

 

You know the saying, when you hear hoofbeats think horses not zebras? There is more modern stuff around most areas here than there is ancient.

Two hundred years can be young here too, just depends. This is from the site in Texas I'm guessing about 100 miles from where OP is, this is early here, but no pottery, 16,000 yrs ago or so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gault_(archaeological_site)

 

This doesn't say much.
Here we find ancient stuff on spots of 10x10 meters (11x11yards) or double that. Or there must have been a community and your talking some acres at most. And beyond that it simply stops, nothing, empty. At most a highly rare wild find on it's own.
Simply because those times people lived on that one spot loosing stuff, and beyond that there was nature where they were hardly active. If you travel through a big open space, how many square meters of it do you cover and how much do you loose? Or when you live sith a community on an acre for long?
So 100 miles is that far that it is fully neglactable.
100 miles is almost half my country. Here in the South we find roman everywhere (still scarce, still only 1/100 chance?), and 100 miles further it's over.

We didn't rule out anything yet. Me only pottery (from pots, from image). Still looking for the answer
Stone indeed is also still a good option, and when signs for it it could even be used by men. Sometomes such stones have wear lines from say sharpening arrow heads, or grinding seeds.
Yet, such stones can also be found natural in the wild. I've picked them up myself more then once to look if...
So i'd say, look again, good, for signs of human usage. Details. I don't see those yet on the images now uploaded.