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Hi,
I know nothing about these. I think they are possibly antique. The interior patterns look hand painted. I have about 6 to 8 pieces and each center is different. They are in impeccable condition with only very minor gold loss on the leaves that surround the center. The number on the back repeats on each of the double handled plates That also looks hand painted.
What do you think?

Thank you for any help

 

English, early nineteenth or late eighteenth. A good maker, someone like Coalport.

 

I would go on what Ownedbybear stated. Here is a later piece of Coalport https://moorabool.com/product/coalport-porcelain-plate-painted-flowers-apple-green-boarder-c-1900/

 

Coalport did lovely flower painting. You’ve convolvulus, auricula and ranunculus.

 

You need to get the springy plate holder off!. Those things have ruined more items then I care to count.

 

I was going to say the same thing!

 

"Border," Moorabool! Not "boArder!"

Reminds me of one of my early finds on eBay: the lovely painting in a frame with "guilty boarders."

 

Chester draws.

 

CHESTER DRAWS?? Huh? Lol.

The closest things I saw were the Coalport. I read a little on it and most of it was signed other than really early pieces. I don’t know enough about porcelain to say it’s theirs or not. They certainly are pretty

What would the double handle plates be for? I always think of cake plate when I see that.

I do also not care for the metal things on them. I got home from auction and just started going through my goodies. Had not had a chance to remove them but I have seen what they can do. I am surprised these plates are in such great condition.

 

Wow! You really know your flowers!!! @Ownedbybear

 

Chester draws: I think would equal "chest of drawers". They were discussing goofy misspelled auction titles.

 

My television provider gives me the English Antiques Roadshow 24/7. So guess what I saw first thing this morning??!!!

Incidentally, Owned is fabulous with flowers!!!!

 

How many guesses do we get? Lol. What???! Lol

 

Sorry! Didn't mean to be so unclear. Those plates! I had the telly on with no sound, and I kept saying, "Stop, Stop!" but the people ceased talking by the time I got myself over to the set. I tried explaining that someone had just had them on the Antiques Board, but...

 

No way!!!