Any Iznik Pottery Experts Here?

I bought this 21cm tall Iznik style tankard at auction yesterday in a mixed lot. It has damage but not too much if it happens to be an old piece.

I read Christie’s guide to Iznik pottery and believe it to be either a 17th or 18th c Iznik piece or a 19th c French or Italian one.

Any experts got an opinion?

Thanks in advance.

John

 

Well in my opinion it does have some age, not ancient by any means and of course the designs are Isnik-y ....but the body does seem to be a bit more European rather than what we usually see in pottery from Turkey, not impossible to Turkish of course, but due to the rather impractical form I suggest it is a late 19th or early 20thc fantasy piece rather than anything designed for everyday use.
The use of the clear overglaze is also suspect, one does not find that in Italian pieces, normally that treatment is reserved for northern European productions, although with the rise of late 19thc studio potters anything is possible.
To sum up, I do not think your piece is Turkish.

 

Flowers are carnations or pink, which isn't very Turkish. I wonder if it's Spanish.

 

On second thoughts and after reviewing some other examples, it does look like the body of these Isnik wares can be more like your piece after all ...so I revise my previous diatribe and say it probably IS Turkish, Rhodian or Isnik!

another nice example:

https://risdmuseum.org/art-design/c...eturn=/exhibitions-events/exhibitions/end-era

 

Isn't that interesting? Certainly not Spanish. But who knew that tankard form was associated with Turkey?

Debora

 

The shape is called a hanap.

Debora

 

Interesting they're using carnations.

 

From wikipedia.org...

• Since Ottoman times, red carnations and tulips are used in the interior wall paintings of mosques in Turkey. It is often said that while tulips represent God, carnations is the symbol for Muhammad. However these flower designs are not unique to mosques but also used in many other Ottoman traditional art forms.

Debora

 

After a lot of research I believe that the piece is a French or Italian copy c1890.

Ive found a few with near identical decoration by Cantigali but marked.

Not the find I hoped for but for £7 it’s okay.

 

Strange that your piece has that kwaart glaze though, not sure, but I don't think the Italians used that, did they?

 

Not sure about that to be honest. I will have to be very guarded in my sale description I don’t want to list anything incorrectly. Islamic specialists were not interested in it but a good auction house suggested French or Italian.

 

AFAIK that clear top glaze is usually associated with Dutch pieces although with art pottery and the late 19thc craze for Orientalism ...well ...good luck with it anyway.

 

Learned my something new today: kwaart. Only knew it as tin or lead glaze.

 

It is not Iznik IMO and does not look like the late 19th - early 20th c Kutahya copies, nor like the 1930s Greek copies, so I guess it is from some other place. However it certainly imitates Iznik tankards. Maybe indeed French or Italian...