Antique Tortoisehell ??? & Etched Brass Box ID Help???

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  1. SPERLS

    SPERLS sperls

    It is 8-1/4" x 3-1/2" x 5" high...Leather lined...Any help appreciated. IMG_7097.JPG IMG_7099.JPG IMG_7102.JPG IMG_7103.JPG
     
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  2. Mansons2005

    Mansons2005 Nasty by Nature, Curmudgeon by Choice

    Sorry I can't help with an id, but it looks as though it may have held decanters at one time.....there is a name for that form that is escaping me at the moment...............may-hap someone with a complete thought process will be along to assist????
     
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  3. jackolin

    jackolin Well-Known Member

  4. Mansons2005

    Mansons2005 Nasty by Nature, Curmudgeon by Choice


    Thank you, Person With Complete and Cognoscente Thought Process...................
     
  5. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    that don't look like no tortoise shell i ever seen....

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  6. Poisonivy

    Poisonivy Well-Known Member

    I agree Komo, I didn't think it was either.
     
  7. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    The brass pieces on the front and sides appear to be commercial die stamped,the lid looks like it was cast and a few accent lines scratched on to it.The surface looks like faux tortoise shell "paint" which has been around since at least the 1870's.
     
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  8. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    It isn't tortoiseshell, but it isn't a paint effect either - look at those edges and the grain repeat. There's an exotic wood that looks like this, but my brain has lost the name.

    Not a tantalus. Nor is it for tea. I suspect it held something like cologne bottles.

    Late 19th, Anglo Indian/Colonial.
     
  9. popsycat

    popsycat Well-Known Member

    Is it coromandel wood?
     
  10. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Yes, certainly is, and my addled brain thanks you. Very typically used for Indian Colonial and Anglo Indian boxes. The brass work is nicely done too.

    I do think this once held three good cut crystal boxes for a chap's toilette, although some are described as being for letters.

    I can't find a comparable one with a pierced lid, but there's a fair few coromandel and brass boxes out there. It's quite a valuable little thing, that.
     
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  11. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    Wonder if it was meant to hold a book (small bible) or documents.

    What does the inside look like. I would think if there were bottles, that the sides would be scuffed from bottle being pulled in and out.
     
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  12. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    looks like this......lots of inside edge scuffing.....

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  13. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    That's the edge, consistent with a book going in and out.
    The inside should have indentations or scratches up the sides from bottles going up and down, then sitting.
     
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  14. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    wouldn't that be a lot of scuffing....for just a book to do...???
     
  15. SPERLS

    SPERLS sperls

    Thanks,for all of your help!!....The inside is leather & most of the scuffing is on the top edges...It is only 5" high,so I think it might have held bottles..What still puzzles me is the pierced lid?? IMG_7148.JPG
     
  16. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    whatever was in there...air, and dust and atmospheric conditions were not a factor....
    hard to say it would have been a precious book !
     
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  17. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    That's why I think bottles. I don't think function will affect value - you'd be looking at the three hundred dollar or more mark here.
     
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  18. 808 raver

    808 raver Well-Known Member

    In my view, English, date 1860-1880, coromandel wood veneered, as to use, I don't think it was a tantalus or held any other bottles as it would have made an impression on the leather, I collect boxes but I'll have to admit I have never seen one exactly like that although the pierced and chased brass and coromandel wood was very common in high end boxes......BTW very nice box
     
  19. gregsglass

    gregsglass Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    When I first glanced at the picture, the first thought came into my mind was: 1961 fire blazed plywood. We used to do a lot of "antiquing" plywood that looked just like the box. Coromandel was what it looked like. Not that we were trying to imitate the wood it just happened to look that way.:rolleyes:
    greg
     
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