Antique pewter pot/vase - 1800s?

Hallo everyone,

I have this antique pot that I would like to know more about. Height is 13cm and it is marked on the base. Can anybody tell me about it's origin and age?

 

Looks like a pseudo crowned rose mark. The crowned Tudor rose mark would be English but I think yours is continental.

 

Ok, thanks for the information. I live in The Netherlands where I purchased it so that makes sense.

 

"Some evidence exists that provincial pewterers too used the sharp struck crowned rose on their exports. If this was for the same reasons the Dutch, Danish and other pewterers on the receiving end of London exports used the mark is open to discussion. The crowned rose was, however, a well respected quality symbol all over Europe."

http://www.pewterbank.com/Marks-_Crowned_Rose_-_Jan_Gadd_....9.pdf

top of page 5. so might be a local item made in the English style.

 

another good site which seems to be constantly disregarded by a few specialists.
https://web.archive.org/web/2010112...agons.com/index.php?p=1_19_Crowned-Rose-marks

 

Not sure who the few specialists that constantly disregard the 'Pewter Tankards & Flagons' site are - but it might be because it's not available in general internet searches. It was shut down shortly after friend Pat's death in May of 2012, it's only found on the Wayback Machine now - he was still adding to the site until shortly before his passing, and the last capture was done in August of 2011, so more than six months worth of his excellent and diligent research is lost...

~Cheryl

 

about 60 % was written, researched and edited by me and then mailed to him. I was not amazed that his family let it fall into oblivion, obviously rather timid people.
because he was constantly afraid that I wanted to take it over - which was certainly not my intention - most probably because he looked upon it as an asset to his meager salary as a US postman, the whole went down the drainpipe.
I had another 20 to 30 pages ready with corrections and addendums when he sadly died much to young.

 

Perhaps you should use all your information to set up and maintain your own website, rather than insulting Pat's family, alluding to his supposed fear of you, and commenting on his 'meager salary' (he was not a US postman, he was a librarian, and he enjoyed his job).

Pat and I also had many exchanges over the years concerning silver, silverplate, and other marks, and I have no doubt that many others contributed to the information he shared over the years, as well as that compiled on his site...

~Cheryl

 

Thanks for the interesting links Fid. Can I assume this is 17th century?

 

13 cm is rather small. is that rust on the inside ?
from the outside color alone I'd put it to the continental Historismus era between 1850 and 1900. if it was 17th c. then it would have darkened more.

 

I think I have figured it out. The initials H L stand for Hendrik Lubach (1804-1842) of Leeuwarden, The Netherlands. See the first mark on the pic. It does look like the inside has rust.

 

that's quite interesting; I only know from French items which have a certain amount of ferrous metals in the alloy which could build up rust; that was due to the post- WWI custom of throwing in every available piece of metal into the same smelter; it was still called régule although the big disadvantage was its irreparability when broken.
could it be nearer to the Napoleonic wars ?

 

That may well be true. Lubach was not born in 1804. That was the year he began his business which he headed until his death in 1842. I took it to an antiques dealer and he dated it around 1800-1810.