Antique gate

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  1. Hayrake

    Hayrake New Member

    Anyone able to put an age on this gate that I bought a couple of weeks ago. Rivets are all hand made and its very heavy. Size is 5.5ftx3ft. Came from an old hermitage in west of Ireland that was 300yrs old. Looks Tudor to me which might make it older than the house but I suppose it may have been second hand when fitted or it maybe just 'Tudor Style' but definitely very old https://www.donedeal.ie/adview/view/10683366
     
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  2. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    That's beautiful and a great deal!
    Is it one of 2? The end verticals make me think so.
     
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  3. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    Could date from last year back to the early 20th C. The cleaning and refinishing will have removed any signs of age and artisan blacksmiths are still making such things on commission and for general sale.

    Ireland is pretty wet, I'd expect any wrought iron work to have lost fine detail to rust. The bar stock is very uniform and the latch looks a bit whimsical.

    There do not appear to be any hinges.
     
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  4. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    Someone bought a GATE! YAY!
    Have I mentioned lately how much I love this forum!

    It's very beautiful - It looks like a combination: the trefoil pieces are manufactured and the (really gorgeous) arced twists are hand done.

    I live in a town with a lot of wrought iron workers - a new, hand forged piece like that would cost at least as much.
     
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  5. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    More than that scouts.
    I wouldn't make that for less than $500.
     
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  6. scoutshouse

    scoutshouse Well-Known Member

    Right - I never priced a gate! but a simple custom piece, I'm guessing.

    An artist (you? :)) would charge much more, I'm sure.
     
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  7. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    Thank you. :)
    Materials are more costly now, steel, gas, tools etc. and the talent to design and make that.
     
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  8. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    I can't profess to be an expert in 300 year old wrought iron. That said, this just seems to be a bit measly to be of the period and to have survived in such good condition. Here is the closest example I could find and it is purported to be a Victorian revival piece. You can see how much more robust this is.

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    I tried to find some old ironwork in situ to at least try to get a handle on some true age. Here are the gates of the Globe Theatre. Whether or not they are truly period or replacements, I don't know.

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    Here is a Pinterest site with UK architectural salvage gates for comparison......

    https://in.pinterest.com/ukheritage/antique-gates/
     
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  9. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    From the above site is this gate with similar strap-work to yours. It is listed as being circa 1900 ......

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  10. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    The Globe Theatre dates from the late 20th C so they are certainly period.
     
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  11. Hayrake

    Hayrake New Member

    Thanks for all the great replies. Just a few points to add to the discussion. The seller claimed that he knew it to be at least 100yrs old from family photos. For a small gate it is much more substantial than it looks in the photos, two strong fellows at our best to lift it down from a roof rack. As for hinges, the bottom of the left hand side upright is rusted away. I would say that this was once a pivot sticking into a hole in the ground with maybe the top hinge left in the wall. The heads of the rivets are all hand cut uneven shapes and sizes but maybe this is a technique that modern day artisan blacksmiths use.
    The plan is to use the gate as an entrance into a private woodland on pillars built with reclaimed Belfast bricks and
     
  12. Hayrake

    Hayrake New Member

    Thanks Brad, very similar. Maybe mine is also one of 2 as kingofthings suggested
     
  13. verybrad

    verybrad Well-Known Member

    LOL! ...... Who knew?

    If I had seen this, I would have .........

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  14. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    Nice gate, call it 19th C. if you want, certainly many similar were made then. I think it is much more likely to be "old" than anything recent. It has lots of decorating uses and you could have spent your money on any number of less impressive, less useful items. Well done, enjoy it.
     
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