Antique brass photo frame, can you help with some of the letters and symbols?

Discussion in 'Metalware' started by Elen Beattie, Dec 28, 2023.

  1. Elen Beattie

    Elen Beattie Well-Known Member

    Hi all, hope you have had a good Christmas if you celebrate! I picked up this sweet photo frame at auction recently. I'm hoping you can help me with some of the letters and images on the frame. "Albert" is inscribed on the bottom- some kind of tribute to Prince Albert or likely just the owner's name? There are various letters including, "ED", "EvR" (or EvH) and a large "F". There is also a canon and rooster. The frame measures 6.75"L x 4.2"W. Any and all info appreciated. Thank you!

    404017522_1406844316876849_6542932331447469292_n.jpg 403894940_740734517496206_8853517163561778878_n.jpg 403910208_1139295584117502_5282869920289381758_n.jpg 404373372_335464125923936_5148803030566968749_n.jpg 404723233_339028045750769_8192601861263605330_n.jpg 387322822_888297092610761_3996121418212742191_n.jpg
     
    komokwa, judy, stracci and 1 other person like this.
  2. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    Only thing I can offer is that ALBERT is likely a custom engraving of the name of the person whose photo was originally in the frame.
    The canon, flags, desolate "landscapes" on either side of the oval, and the figure at the top are making me think it's some kind of war-related commemoration. I think roosters were used as mascots for some US Civil War regiments...?
    Wonderful piece!
     
    Last edited: Dec 28, 2023
    Figtree3, judy, stracci and 2 others like this.
  3. Elen Beattie

    Elen Beattie Well-Known Member

    Thank you, war related commemoration make sense!
     
    judy and stracci like this.
  4. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    World War I. The figure of Lady Liberty is at the top, leading the attack. The Gallic rooster is the symbol of France and the bird is standing on a pedestal marked "F." The silhouette of a French village. A canon. And the trees show the damage done to nature by warfare. I would think a gift from that lovely young woman to her beau or husband, Albert.

    Debora
     
    Figtree3, stracci, bluumz and 3 others like this.
  5. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I would say that is an allegorical figure of Victory at the top rather than Liberty.
     
    Figtree3, judy, stracci and 5 others like this.
  6. Elen Beattie

    Elen Beattie Well-Known Member

    Great info, thank you very much!
     
    judy, stracci, Bronwen and 1 other person like this.
  7. johnnycb09

    johnnycb09 Well-Known Member

    So many older pics have subjects that,to be frank,are rather homely. She is lovely . Id happily make her an instant ancestor.
     
    judy, stracci, sabre123 and 2 others like this.
  8. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

  9. Elen Beattie

    Elen Beattie Well-Known Member

    Bronwen likes this.
  10. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Here she is. From the Arc de Triomphe (duh.) Bellona, the Roman goddess of War, as the personification of Liberty apparently.

    Debora

    Screenshot 2023-12-28 at 1.53.16 PM.png
     
    stracci, johnnycb09, sabre123 and 2 others like this.
  11. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    A French soldier more likely.

    Debora
     
    johnnycb09, Bronwen and Elen Beattie like this.
  12. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Tried to find ED & EVM/EVH in the big directory of medalists by Leonard Forrer with no luck. Tried it both ways, but assume the surname of the one on the right begins with V. The only ED that was at all a possibility was an E. Drentwett, a forebear of a whole clan of medal striking Drentwetts.
     
    stracci and johnnycb09 like this.
  13. Elen Beattie

    Elen Beattie Well-Known Member

    Oh interesting! Thank you for looking those up.
     
    Bronwen likes this.
  14. moreotherstuff

    moreotherstuff Izorizent

    Could have been just someone named Albert, but might have been Albert I of Belgium.
     
    Bronwen and Elen Beattie like this.
  15. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    With all that French imagery?

    Debora
     
    Elen Beattie likes this.
  16. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Number of children named Albert born in France by year.

    Debora

    Screenshot 2023-12-28 at 5.42.16 PM.jpeg
     
    Elen Beattie likes this.
  17. Elen Beattie

    Elen Beattie Well-Known Member

    Wow, big spike after the war!
     
  18. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Big spike before the war too. No babies born during.

    Debora
     
    Elen Beattie likes this.
  19. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    less babies.........not no babies !!;):playful:
     
    Figtree3, Elen Beattie and Debora like this.
  20. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    fewer. ;)
     
    Elen Beattie, Bronwen and Debora like this.

Share This Page