Another Mystery Item - Any Ideas on Use???

Discussion in 'Tools' started by CatintheAttic, Apr 14, 2017.

  1. CatintheAttic

    CatintheAttic Member

    Hello, again. Another of my mystery items from a yard sale. This is clearly some kind of gauge or measure, but for what? It consists of 9 aluminium discs fastened together with a hinging rivet. Each has a square cut out of the middle in graduated sizes. The smallest measures 1" square; the largest 2.5" square. Each disc is marked with the size of the square. The largest square has chamfered corners. It bears no maker's marks, and could date anywhere from the 1920s to the 1970s. Has anyone got any idea what the purpose of this curious object might have been?? I'd be grateful if you could let me know so I can cross out another mystery. Thanks.
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  2. Dukewright

    Dukewright Member

    My first thought is a manual aperture for a specialized, large format, camera. There are many easier ways to measure size, so I'm thinking something to limit flow of light or liquid.
     
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  3. Joshua Brown

    Joshua Brown Decently-Known-Member

    My only Idea would be some type of template plate for Mortising.:)
     
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  4. Dukewright

    Dukewright Member

    Would expect rectangles for that... unless you were building funiture for "This End Up":rolleyes:
     
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  5. Joshua Brown

    Joshua Brown Decently-Known-Member

    I had that thought but I've never heard of a camera that has a square Aperture hole; since pretty much the beginning of photography the aperture holes have been located directly behind the lens and been circular.:D
     
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  6. Joshua Brown

    Joshua Brown Decently-Known-Member

    That's why I said "some type", it was just a thought.:)
     
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  7. coreya

    coreya Well-Known Member

    Square nut guide. (sort of like a drill size guide or nail size guide).
     
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  8. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    My first thought was that it was for "cropping" square format negatives for printing things. The film is or was 2x2 inches per neg or thereabouts, and back in the day you'd have used a physical mask to crop your image. Then you'd put it into the negative carrier and slide it into the enlarger.
     
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  9. silverthwaite II

    silverthwaite II Well-Known Member

    Either my father or my grandfather had one of these, therefore, it would have had to do with the construction of...something.

    I have no idea how Coreya's "square nut guide" works, but I think I am picturing something like a washer...the ones in the sink...

    no very helpful, but at least I have Seen the thing!
     
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  10. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    I'll link this thread over to "Practical Machinist" forum where they should know even if it isn't a machinist tool.
     
  11. CatintheAttic

    CatintheAttic Member

    Thanks for the help so far - all good stuff. I'm doubtful about the photo aperture idea because the quality just doesn't feel right for a technical photography use, although I wouldn't rule out the cropping idea. I think more likely some kind of mechanical use - so some kind of guide or gauge. Maybe something will come from practical machinist side. Is it too big for a square nut guide?
     
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  12. springfld.arsenal

    springfld.arsenal Store: http://www.springfieldarsenal.net/

    On the other forum, Lester Bowman wrote: "...I would immediately say it's just a pocket gage for measuring different sizes of square steel tubing. The design suggests itself for that purpose..even to the detail of have the radii cut into the larger corners. A convenient pocket tool used in steel sales to quickly gage steel tubing stock to avoid mistakes. Isn't that obvious?"

    Lester, thanks, but to answer your question, no, it isn't obvious.
     
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  13. lloyd249

    lloyd249 it's not hoarding if it's valuable

    ya maybe a tubing gauge . i will ask darwin he's a pipeline welder i worked with , he will know, he's a metal/plastic tool know it all lol
     
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  14. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    Well Lester, a square tube is the same on all sides, so your pocket rule would suffice for measuring its size. But it could be an asset for round stock measuring.
     
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  15. Dukewright

    Dukewright Member

    It would be less bulky than a tape measure or ruler in your pocket but it seems cumbersome to use for measuring.
     
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  16. Steersman

    Steersman Well-Known Member

    We find these around here, but with round holes, in exactly the same sizes. Ours are fruit gauges or sizers for sorting and grading fruit. This area has a very long orchard tradition.

    Not saying that's what this thing is, though. Putting round fruit in a square hole seems a little odd.
     
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  17. CatintheAttic

    CatintheAttic Member

    Thanks so much for putting it on the other forum. This does sound about right - it would seem likely to be a pocket tool, and measuring tubing seems a very likely use. But as you say, no it wasn't obvious! Thanks again!
     
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  18. CatintheAttic

    CatintheAttic Member

    Hello - it would be great if you could ask him - just to confirm. Thanks
     
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  19. CatintheAttic

    CatintheAttic Member

    Hello - someone else I know suggested this was a gauge for measuring potatoes - but same as you, I thought it was strange that the openings were square! Its interesting that you use similar tools though.
     
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  20. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Heck, they make something similar for figuring out how much spaghetti to cook for dinner.(LOL)
     
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