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Found @2manybooks information on @916Bulldogs123 Abraham Lincoln’s engraving post interesting. Was hoping to get your insight on this one I have had for over ten years from an estate auction near Chicago, Illinois. I remember finding a similar one online back then but can not find it now. Don’t know if it was the same one or not. 10”X7”
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thank you for looking.

 

https://www.ohiomemory.org/digital/collection/p267401coll32/id/7644

 

Very nice, thanks for the find. *thumbs up*
By chance would you understand the significance why the “Published by” near the bottom and the extra print under the bust? I also see the “Engraved by” is different .

Or maybe point me in a direction to google it myself.


Ooops! I see now one is etched buy, one it’s engraved by. My bad.

 

I hadn't even noticed. They are not exactly the same. Yours appears to be an engraving, theirs is an etching. The backgrounds are marginally different.

This is the Marshall engraving:


So my guess is that HB Hall wanted a Lincoln image, so they used the Marshall engraving as a source. Maybe they ran into copyright problems and decided to make the image their own by significantly re-working it. I don't know why HB Hall would otherwise produce both an etching and an engraving. But both have the same inscription.

You can compare theirs against yours to see if they are identical:


It's not as simple as it seemed at first.

 

Very cool!
Mikey

 

Thanks . Think it now goes without saying the handwriting same person,different signature. Obvious more differences, but point made.

 

Isn't it a bit of a puzzle? Maybe you can contact the Ohio History Connection and get dimensions for another comparison. They give dimensions in that link, but I don't know what they're talking about.

 

Some one said on a stamp board the 180 Wabash Ave suite 515 Chicago was a RedCross Headquarters in 1918, but I can not seem to confirm.

Can anyone decipher the name under that address “R???d Dean?”?

 

I think that name may be Dixon as well, and maybe a phone number?



Looks to be a framer's note.

 

Yes, I see HC Dixon associated with address, was looking at the signature on bottom. You make a very good point as to possibly a framer’s note, all be it a simple frame

regardless, Marshall’s was one year after Lincoln’s passing, so don’t think anything else matters *shrugs*

thanks again…

 

The H. B. Hall's Sons engraving was included in "Portraits of the Presidents of the United States: Engraved on Steel." Published by the Steel Plate Publishing Co., New York, (undated, but c.1890.) This listing on abebooks includes a photo of the Lincoln engraving:

https://www.abebooks.com/Portraits-Presidents-United-States-Engraved-Steel/30745646426/bd

 

Outstanding! Without a doubt that is the same signature. Thank you for the find. Seems as though there is print on the adjacent pages, which would indicate the addition of extra pages intending for the engravings to be framed(my imagination). The measurements do add up. Thank you



update: appears I was right.
https://archive.org/details/portraitsofpresi00hbha/page/n69/mode/2up