African, NA, or other?

Not mine. Only photos available.

 

First one is "neither." Based on the single-rod construction, the stitches used to join the coils, and the "hole-like" start, it's most likely from Lombok, Indonesia.

The second one is bundle-coiled, wrapped with what appears to be palm fiber. Based on the type of stitches joining the coils, it probably is from Mexico. But several countries in Africa do make coiled baskets out of palm fiber, which is sometimes dyed.

So since the overall construction isn't the best, and it isn't typical of any particular area, it might not be possible to determine where it was made.

 

Thanks. I had no idea on the first one except that I thought it was unlikely NA. Wouldn’t have guessed Indonesian. Second I did think likely African. Interesting that it could be Mexican or otherwise though.

 

I don't immediately recognize either of these baskets, but have been pondering them. The technique and materials (raffia) of the second one resembles coiled baskets currently being made for sale in Madagascar, such as these -

https://www.alexandalexa.com/us/en/...affia-basket-with-leather-handles-mint-green/

https://www.blackartdepot.com/products/aintsoa-madagascar-african-basket?variant=42560478478501

The first one resembles Lombok basketry, but the materials are not quite right. The single rod foundation looks like rattan, but the stitching on yours appears to be a soft material, such as raffia palm. Lombok baskets typically use rattan as both the coil foundation and stitching, which is harder and more uniform.

Madagascar would be a place where Indonesian and east African features are often combined, and where some species of both rattan and raffia occur.

 

neither have much value..

 

I had a basket like the first one years ago and the seller said her grandmother made from instructions from a kit or booklet around 1920.

 

Thank you for the detailed reply and knowledge!

 

Yeh I don’t plan to acquire either.