3 Old Metal Dogs

Discussion in 'Metalware' started by KevinM, May 26, 2016.

  1. KevinM

    KevinM Active Member

    I purchased these 3 old metal dogs today and I'm trying to figure out how old they are and what type of dogs they are among other things (perhaps some type of terrier?). I looked around and didn't find a match.

    The dogs are made of solid cast metal and are very magnetic. The larger dog measures about 3 1/4" in length and about 2 1/4" in height and weighs a heavy 10+ ounces. The smaller dogs measure about 1 3/4" in length and about 1 3/8" in height. I don't see any legible maker marks or ID on them.

    Does anyone know when these might have been made, who made them, where they were made, what type of dogs they are or anything else?

    Thanks!
    Kevin
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  2. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    Scotties?
    Very popular when FDR was president.
     
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  3. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    I could be wrong about this, but something about the even wear reminds me of modern pieces that are designed to look like antiques. Not to mislead, just made that way.

    Wait to see if others have ideas. I could be mistaken, hard to tell from a photo.

    Can't help with the breed of dog. I'm a cat person. :cat:
     
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  4. KevinM

    KevinM Active Member

    KingofThings, I was thinking of a Scottie but the ones I saw had pointed ears. The ears on these look more of the flop over type ears. They are not bent down from age, it's the way they were when they were made. Also, it's a little unusual to find a set of cast iron ones like this with the 2 puppies. I'm sure these would be pre WW2 and perhaps FDR era when they were made.
     
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  5. KevinM

    KevinM Active Member

    Lucille.b, even wear? Zoom in or enlarge the image of just the larger dog and look at the paint crazing, the high spots on the cast iron is where the crazed paint areas have come off of them. Also, the rust areas are pretty thick and or dense (body and bottoms of them), looks natural to me.
     
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  6. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    What I meant was, the way they are evenly worn over the whole surface, and comparing the three. That all three have a less worn dark nose, a less worn dark front paw, etc., see 3rd picture from end. I'd expect the wear to be more random.
     
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  7. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    Seems I've seen Scotties with floppy ears too. No?
    But now I think... Shar-pei.
     
  8. KevinM

    KevinM Active Member

    Lucille.b, Ok, I'm confused, I think that all 3 have a *more* worn dark nose, *more* worn dark front paw, etc, which is what I would expect from old small heavy cast iron items with the old dried paint coming off the rusting base metal under the crazing paint on *high or elevated areas in the casting* which would be more exposed to surface wear or banging around. The discolored white paint would likely be from age and perhaps from the rusting of the iron it resides on.
     
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  9. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    I suspect all that can be generated in a short time but that doesn't mean these have been.
     
  10. Lucille.b

    Lucille.b Well-Known Member

    Sorry, meant to say, "more", its late. Just that the wear was similar on all three. Signing off.
     
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  11. KevinM

    KevinM Active Member

    KingofThings, could be Sharpei, although, the ears of a Sharpei look a little too small.
     
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  12. KevinM

    KevinM Active Member

    Lucille.b, I was thinking you must have meant that. Thanks for your thoughts.
     
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  13. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    The wear is suspicious too methinks.
     
  14. clutteredcloset49

    clutteredcloset49 Well-Known Member

    Not Sharpais. Those dogs were not popular back in the 30s-40s.

    Terrier. Not necessarily Scottish.
     
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  15. DragonflyWink

    DragonflyWink Well-Known Member

    Sealyham Terriers - Hubley, perhaps...

    ~Cheryl
     
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  16. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    I agree with Cheryl. Hubley did do a Sealyham with a red collar. Here is one of them.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Iro...d-collar-Medium-size-NICE-Sealy-/400429224532

    Now Hubley usually marked their figures. One exception were full figure doorstops.

    "Hubley did not mark their Full Figured (Features on both back and the front) Doorstops, because it would ruins the looks." On these they generally put markings "inside the hollow cavity" and later used foil labels.
    http://www.doorstops.com/info/foundry/1foundry.html

    --- Susan
     
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  17. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    Last edited: May 27, 2016
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  18. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    First link all I got was a page full of ads.............
     
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  19. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    Anything good?
    ;)
     
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  20. Ladybranch

    Ladybranch Well-Known Member

    Hmmmm...clicking that link I get an ongoing ebay auction for item number #400429224532,

    "Antique Iron Hubley Sealyham TErrier w Red collar Medium size NICE!! Sealy" I suspect you aren't picking up all of the link when clicked?? Here it is again.


    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Iron-Hubley-Sealyham-TErrier-w-Red-collar-Medium-size-NICE-Sealy-/400429224532?rmvSB=true&ul_ref=http%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F1%2F711-53200-19255-0%2F1%3Fcampid%3D5337485078%26toolid%3D10001%26mpre%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2FAntique-Iron-Hubley-Sealyham-TErrier-w-Red-collar-Medium-size-NICE-Sealy-%2F400429224532%26srcrot%3D711-53200-19255-0%26rvr_id%3D1036358947858&ul_noapp=true

    --- Susan
     
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