Featured 19th Century American Treenware

Discussion in 'Antique Discussion' started by NewEngland, Dec 10, 2022.

  1. NewEngland

    NewEngland Well-Known Member

    Hi everyone,

    I picked up this piece of 19th century treenware today. I have no idea what it was used for. It's very finely made of beautiful wood with a brass diamond-shaped label that reads "WM SUYDAM MAKER 65 NASSAU ST NEW YORK". It measures 7 1/2" high and is 4 1/2" wide at the ends. It is open all the way through. I found an 1887 article about a William Suydam of 65 Nassau St in the New York Times hinting that he was a bookie or flim-flam man (I don't have a NYT subscription, so I can't read the whole article). Has anyone seen an object like this? Could it have something to do with gambling? The name Suydam is Dutch. There were lots of Dutch people in NY in the 19th century. I've also found William Suydam who was in the Civil War from New Jersey, so maybe it was a common name. Thanks!


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  2. Kronos

    Kronos Well-Known Member

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  3. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Not an uncommon name at all. My family tree has quite a few Suydams, either as a surname or as a middle name. In the 50's both our house and my maternal grandparents' house bordered a huge Dutch farmhouse with equally large lot that was occupied by an elderly couple named Suydam.
     
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  4. NewEngland

    NewEngland Well-Known Member

    Thank you for that link, Kronos. Fascinating collector's items. I had no idea. I didn't find anything that looks like this thing in their catalog, so I will do more research.
     
  5. Roaring20s

    Roaring20s Well-Known Member

  6. Roaring20s

    Roaring20s Well-Known Member

  7. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    hitting , on all cylinders there Roaring !!!!!!;):playful::happy::happy::happy:
     
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  8. NewEngland

    NewEngland Well-Known Member

    Thank you, Roaring!
     
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  9. Roaring20s

    Roaring20s Well-Known Member

    Searching ... it's a roll of the dice :pompous:,
    a game of chance :cigar:.
     
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  10. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    THAT is one FASCINATING catalogue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:jawdrop: (But I didn't see the wooden thingie!)
     
  11. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    then u must be playing wth ' loaded ' dice !!!:hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:
     
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  12. Kronos

    Kronos Well-Known Member

    That auction had a catalogue from the company/person mentioned on the wood piece.
     
  13. Lark

    Lark Well-Known Member

    Beat me to it @Roaring.
     
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  14. 2manybooks

    2manybooks Well-Known Member

    Can anyone explain how such a dice drop is used?
     
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  15. Roaring20s

    Roaring20s Well-Known Member

    Last edited: Dec 11, 2022
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  16. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    goes in one side...drops out the other...
     
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  17. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    Guess I blinked....a couple of times!!!:cyclops::cyclops: Still a cool piece!
     
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