1811 BRITAINS BULWARKS OR BRITISH SEAMAN A POEM

I purchased AT ESTATE sale.
It was not printed by publishers but by the telegraph office. I have not been able to find a picture of a first edition to compare it to.
Any body knows if it is a first edition and value.?
Here are some pics.

 

What makes you think this is not the first edition?

Debora

 

The Telegraph was a newspaper in Plymouth Dock, England. Woodley lived there at one point so your volume was printed locally. This is from The Tourist's Companion; Being A Guide To The Towns of Plymouth, Plymouth-Dock, Stonehouse, Morice-Town, Stoke, And Their Vicinities.

Debora

 

Here's the asking prices for reprints from both abebooks.com and biblio.com.

https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/Se...rgn=ww&rollup=on&sortby=17&xdesc=off&xpod=off

https://www.biblio.com/search.php?author=george+woodley&title=britain's+bulwarks&keyisbn=&stage=1

Debora

 

YES I SAW THE PRICE FOR PAPER BACK REPRINTS.
I WANT VALUE OF ORIGINAL FIRST EDITION IF THIS IS ONE HAPPENS TO BE ONE ?
I WOULD WANT A PICTURE OF ORIGINAL TO VISUALLY CONFIRM THAT MINE IS A REAL FIRST EDITION

 

ask nicely !

we don't work for you...

 

I dont think ANY of my writing was offensive.
And I joined to have a conversation, discussion, and exchange knowledge voluntary. I agree with you, you dont work for me and I'm. Not hiring anyone. I'm not sure where the conversation went wrong. You dont have to answer to my post to start a fight. I apologize for what EVER you think I did wrong. Please dont reply to my post and have a nice day.

 

for info ALL CAPS is yelling and not considered polite !!!!!!

 

I accept the apology. If somewhat backhanded......

I WANT VALUE...... I WANT PICTURE......

u seem to be able to write quite nicely when u want to ...... but I WANT THIS & I WANT THAT.......... well , that just doesn't come off as asking politely.... it just sounds demanding and entitled !!!!!!!!!

and.......

u don't have the gravitas here to tell me where and when I can post on a thread.... any thread !!!!!!

but just cuz I'm in a good mood......... I will not reply to any more of your threads or posts......... EVER !!!!!!!!

 

If you are looking for assistance with your item, it would helpful if you answered questions. I repeat...

What makes you think this is not the first edition?

Debora

 

L. Congdon would be considered the publisher. He published the Telegraph newspaper, as the citation provided by Debora shows, and also published the book at his same office.

There are 18 examples of the original publication held in libraries in the UK, none with a date before or after 1811 - no evidence for any additional editions.

https://discover.libraryhub.jisc.ac...lace=&isn=&date=&subject=&map-scale=&keyword=

 

Perhaps you're asking if the binding is original?

Debora

 

I'm sorry for late reply.
I'm not a book expert but this does not say first edition , nor first printing.
Additionally . The error page states a page # and line number from bottom up and it list a word in error and the correct word that suppose to be there.
But upon following the instructions the page is correct, but line position is wrong and the correc word is there.
So I figure it might be an edition later WITH ERROR corrected.
Or if first edition than THE ERROR page it's an error itself.

 

Yes, if there is an error page, there must be an earlier edition. That answers you question I think.

 

This is the only sale I can find for one of Woodley's books (rebound in this case):
https://www.easyliveauction.com/cat...ef448a6646f/rare-books-works-on-paper-lot-26/

 

I spoke to my partner, a bookseller for 41 years, about this issue. Here is his reply -

Hello. 2manycats here, using 2manybooks account because mine is lost.

I AM a book expert. Even today, many books do not say "first edition" or "first printing" when they are. There are several vital reference books devoted to methods used by various publishers at various times to indicate first printings.

In the early nineteenth century, in the era of hand-set type, later printings were uncommon, and would usually - usually - be noted as "second edition" or whichever, on the title page. Type would be reset for each edition, which would allow errors to creep in, which is one reason the interest in first editions developed - the first edition was most closely supervised by the author, and therefore the most accurate.

It is a big job to set an entire book in type, and mistakes get made. Sometimes you notice errors while you're printing, and correct the error while the type is still in the press. This results in what we call a "state", in which some copies in a printing can be identified as earlier because they still have the error, but they're all still part of the same printing.

Sometimes, though, you don't notice the error until the book is finished and the type distributed and put away. Then, because it's not a trivial job to reprint a page - you'd actually have to reprint, depending on the size of the book, four or eight pages, not to mention rebinding. So it's much easier to print a single 'errata' page, listing the errors, and bind or paste that in to finished books. Even later errors may be corrected by an 'errata slip' which is just a loose sheet laid into a book.

It is possible that an errata page corrects errors that were corrected in some later copies of a book - or the errata page itself could have an error!

Is is not uncommon to see second editions brag that they are 'revised and corrected', eliminating the errata page that might have been in the first edition. It is NOT the case that an errata page indicates a later edition, just that some errors were noticed before the book was published.

In the case of this book, a regional poet of no particular repute has coaxed a local printer to publish his book. Noting that there are no other printing dates in copies held by British libraries, it's highly unlikely that there were any other printings, let alone editions. If the book provides an unusual or valuable insight into early nineteenth century life, or we now know the author to have a significant association (was he a friend of Jane Austen, say), it may now be of considerable interest. If it's just a book of Cornish verse, it may only be of interest to local collectors.

There's not much point worrying about the edition of such a book. It appears to be scarce enough that ANY edition would be of value to a collector, IF there are any collectors. So the question becomes not about the book, but about the author and the content. Is there anything there out of the ordinary? A question less easily answered.

 

I would spend some time trying to decipher the owner's signature. An off chance that it might be a something out of the ordinary.

Debora

 

I don't know if its altered or if it was smothered with ink to deface.
The M looks like a n joined with an A.
I cannot decifer.

 

Too much ink and not blotted. Looks like Joseph William sumthin' starting with a C.

Debora

 

Mme(madame) de la Boz??